Posted by connivingsumo on 2010-12-05 00:43:13

Kryten was the feller that offered my first day. Hopefully he has a team in FFB (rather than the Academy).

Posted by Macavity on 2010-12-05 00:50:20

Can't be bothered to check prices atm but leave off the Troll and goblins and maybe even Black Orcs in favour of ReRolls.

Posted by connivingsumo on 2010-12-05 00:54:07

Considering this option:

Variation 9

* 1 Troll
* 4 BOBs
* 1 Blitzer
* 1 Thrower
* 4 Gobbo
* 3 RR
* 9 FF

The idea is to start off with all the BOBs & Troll so they can skill up quickly. In the longer term getting all your BOBs with that 2nd skill will really help, while the blitzers can be bought in later as they tend to skill up quickly. Gobbos are handy at the start, and if they live long enough to get skilled they can be worth keeping.
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And this one:

Variation 10

* 1 Troll
* 4 Black Orcs
* 2 Throwers
* 4 Goblins
* 3 RR
* 9 FF
* 10k Cash

Goblins as starting players are actually pretty decent - so long as you have some ST 3 (or more) to back them up. They make excellent assists and are reasonably difficult for a rookie team to take down with dodge. I frequently use them just to throw some tacklezones in the way. No block is rough, but it worked out well for the first two games. The idea was to eventually max out at 13 players, with future purchases being:

* Apothecary
* Blitzers (as replacement for injured goblins eventually keeping best 2 gobbos on the roster)
* 3 more RRs.
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Or this one:
* 4 Black Orcs
* 2 Blitzers
* 5 Linemen
* 3 Team Re-rolls
* 9 Fan Factor

Goblins are weak. Throwers are weak. Trolls are unreliable. A pure orcish set-up with a reasonable number of re-rolls aimed at getting the Black Orcs skilled up early.

An apothecary and more Blitzers are the next additions (Blitzers skill up easily).
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Or this one:

* 3 Blitzers,
* 3 Black Orc Blockers,
* 1 Thrower,
* 4 Lineorcs,
* 3 RR
* 7 FF

This is a rather strength-oriented setup, with no goblins at all. Since both types of players cost 80k, you can drop a blitzer for a black orc or the other way around. I'd not start with too few black orcs, however, because they advance very slowly, and you will want them to get at least one skill (Block, obviously) ASAP.

To even increase this team's bashing power, you can add a big guy. Since you don't want to use TTM, a troll might be worth considering. He is cheaper than an ogre, and his Regeneration ability makes him extremely tough. You have to keep at least one player next to him, however, to avoid the effects of Really Stupid. Drop a black orc and two points of FF for him. The ogre is slightly more expensive; I'd cut a lineorc, a RR and 1 FF for him.

The other way to go is to use goblins, either with or without TTM, but I've never done this myself, so I'll leave putting up a setup to others :)
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Any of you Veterans have an opinion, I'd love to hear it. ;)

Posted by connivingsumo on 2010-12-05 00:58:02

@ Macavity:

RR's = 60k
BOB's = 80k
Troll = 110k
Goblin = 40k

Posted by asharak on 2010-12-06 02:41:57

Maybe a bit late but given you're in FFB you can drop the FF in the blow builds which are aimed at LRB4 so you'll have more cash for players/rerolls. Try to avoid too many gobbos is your starting lineup too.
A possible:
* 4 Black Orcs
* 4 Blitzers
* 3 Linemen
* 3 Team Re-rolls
The remaining 30k can either go on fanfactor or be saved for an apothecary.

Posted by connivingsumo on 2010-12-06 03:09:09

@ asharak:

Oh? OK, I didn't know that - good input, thank you!

I think I can wipe my current team and start anew? Or maybe edit the team since I haven't played with it yet - I'll see what I can do.

Thanks for the tip!! :D

Posted by asharak on 2010-12-07 20:05:36

Ahh, I see you've gone with that build :) Hope it works well for you! Blitzers are great wee players for the cost and skill up quite fast, getting you guard, mighty blow and tackle fastish. Blackorcs... take longer :(

As I see from your latest blog you've already discovered the lack of ability to modify/delete teams... a bit irritating but still... makes for some odd team names trying to come up with ones that havn't been used yet!

Posted by connivingsumo on 2010-12-11 00:48:40

@ asharak:

Ya, I deleted the team and made a new one with zero FF, and 3 RR.

Thanks for all of the input! :D