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JackassRampant



Joined: Feb 26, 2011

Post   Posted: Jun 03, 2025 - 01:41 Reply with quote Back to top

Piling On would be great now as AV-only, working on fouls and blocks alike if you haven't been spotted fouling on the original roll, and you go prone before the reroll so no skills. That would be way more interesting than Pile Driver, and not broken.

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The_Murker



Joined: Jan 30, 2011

Post   Posted: Jun 03, 2025 - 01:52 Reply with quote Back to top

I suppose I also like how a few of the skills in each category ARE kind of a waste. It makes the random rolling a bit of a gamble.

I don't like Arm Bar.. but I do like to see an Orc blitzer with a 10k Arm Bar on the other team.

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JackassRampant



Joined: Feb 26, 2011

Post   Posted: Jun 03, 2025 - 04:30 Reply with quote Back to top

I would rather see chosen skills come down in TV and randoms come up in SPP slightly, and then make the bad skills better.

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Dalfort



Joined: Jun 23, 2008

Post   Posted: Jun 04, 2025 - 00:16 Reply with quote Back to top

Posting when the thread is on page 3 seems a little late to the party but...

I loved the idea of going back to a designated Passing Stat like in Second Edition. Such a shame they totally ruined Passing as an actual option (not just sub-optimal as the die-hards will scream).

The new skill selection system made for an interesting change, especially being able to "save up" for specific skills. The re-draft is a great idea too. Monster players need a way to be removed from the game (eventually), but some players need a long time to actually build and woe be tide anyone who wants to build an unusual player (anything that "shouldn't" do a role) so I think Theme Teams suffer under this ruleset. Maybe having predominantly Tournament TT coaches on the playtesting may have contributed to such a restrictive tightening of things to focus coaches into more comformative styles of play <shrug>

Negative parts of the game for me are that removal of players quickly devolves games into one-sided boredom inducing mouse-clicks... and the frequency of that seems to have increased dramatically.

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Carthage



Joined: Mar 18, 2021

Post   Posted: Jun 04, 2025 - 05:50 Reply with quote Back to top

Bumping the positivity post over the spam bot Smile
koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: Jun 04, 2025 - 09:45 Reply with quote Back to top

Dalfort wrote:

Negative parts of the game for me are that removal of players quickly devolves games into one-sided boredom inducing mouse-clicks... and the frequency of that seems to have increased dramatically.


Is that true? Is it really worse?

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Sp00keh



Joined: Dec 06, 2011

Post   Posted: Jun 04, 2025 - 10:42 Reply with quote Back to top

Yea... clawpomb type pitch clearances are just not a regular thing anymore

So to reply in the style of this post:

- Pile On removal + Claw/MB no longer stacking has reduced the potential CAS output of killer teams, which in turn means spamming kill-stack is less viable, so bash teams are more likely to spam Guard and Stand Firm skills instead
This means their gameplay is now based more on tactical control, rather than seeking CAS

This in turn means playing at high TV isn't scary as it used to be, as your team is less likely to be destroyed
MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Jun 04, 2025 - 11:48 Reply with quote Back to top

But Serious Injuries are more common, because the Casualty table shifted Badly Hurt from 50% to 37.5%, thus making the Apothecary less useful.
Even without Cpomb, there is a certain attrition at low TV anyway.
About Guard and Stand Firm: according to my anecdotal experience, team go for Mighty Blow and Guard over Guard and Stand Firm, more commonly.

8 Casualties in a match I recently played:
https://fumbbl.com/p/match?id=4627866

Having a bench doesn't help that much. This is why I asked, in another thread, a client option to tweak both the Injury and Casualty tables.
There is no need to have both tables like they are now because Re-Draft trims the teams.
Sp00keh



Joined: Dec 06, 2011

Post   Posted: Jun 04, 2025 - 13:14 Reply with quote Back to top

You've forgotten the purpose of this thread
MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Jun 04, 2025 - 13:26 Reply with quote Back to top

You too. I just commented after your post: "
Yea... clawpomb type pitch clearances are just not a regular thing anymore".
I can nitpick too, see?
Sp00keh



Joined: Dec 06, 2011

Post   Posted: Jun 04, 2025 - 13:34 Reply with quote Back to top

Hardly, it was an hour later

Less pitch clears is 'a thing I like in the current BB edition'
Your post has basically nothing like that
The thread is to celebrate things we like, but you instead moaned, again. Which is exactly why murker told you to make this thread, in case you hadn't worked that out...
MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Jun 04, 2025 - 13:40 Reply with quote Back to top

Then I will make a new thread, no problem.
I quit this one, have fun!
Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: Jun 04, 2025 - 15:13 Reply with quote Back to top

oh and I like the Ooligan

and

Black Orc team is fun

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Dalfort



Joined: Jun 23, 2008

Post   Posted: Jun 04, 2025 - 18:29 Reply with quote Back to top

koadah wrote:
Dalfort wrote:

Negative parts of the game for me are that removal of players quickly devolves games into one-sided boredom inducing mouse-clicks... and the frequency of that seems to have increased dramatically.


Is that true? Is it really worse?


Feels like it :'(

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