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Diablange



Joined: Apr 27, 2020

Post   Posted: May 31, 2025 - 19:20 Reply with quote Back to top

Hello,

With the implementation of seasons, you have to re-hire a majority of new players, even if they didn't skill up.

In my league I use a formula depending on the skill-ups, I feel it would be a viable option for both 2016 and 2020 skill-ups and would allow to keep a majority of the team. This would also be a good option for leagues running for a long time, for which it's not possible to manually set up a number of past seasons.

I'll add an image to explain it simply.

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Would it be interesting and not too complicated to implement that ?
Sharkrudi



Joined: Dec 19, 2011

Post   Posted: May 31, 2025 - 21:55 Reply with quote Back to top

+1

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Sambre



Joined: Apr 14, 2020

Post   Posted: Jun 05, 2025 - 11:00 Reply with quote Back to top

It seems to make viable a league with the old skill system (2016) with the newer redraft system. It looks promising indeed.
Carthage



Joined: Mar 18, 2021

Post   Posted: Jun 05, 2025 - 15:35 Reply with quote Back to top

Obvious exploit of this is to intentionally not take any skills the last few games of a season and roll into game 1 with a bunch of players with very high SPP. Then you are at a huge advantage for game 2
Sp00keh



Joined: Dec 06, 2011

Post   Posted: Jun 05, 2025 - 16:28 Reply with quote Back to top

Can already bank SPP in the current system though, as SPP itself has no redraft 'cost'
Diablange



Joined: Apr 27, 2020

Post   Posted: Jun 05, 2025 - 17:09 Reply with quote Back to top

Carthage wrote:
Obvious exploit of this is to intentionally not take any skills the last few games of a season and roll into game 1 with a bunch of players with very high SPP. Then you are at a huge advantage for game 2

Let's take 2 hypothesis :
1- If you go by official rules, this strictly doesn't change any meta around 2020 skilling up. Litteraly 0 impact : people already avoid skilling up in order to pay less. This option will just give more flexibility to league admin on what to take into account.
2- Since it's a non official re-hiring cost, it will more likely interest leagues already twitching a little bit official rules or ready to do it. And nothing prevents a league admin to force skills to be taken before entering the new season.

Please also note this works very well with 2016 and 2020 skilling up, and since the site doesn't allow to manually enter a number of seasons played, this gives a nice alternative (according to me at least Very Happy) for long existing leagues.
caracolito



Joined: Nov 10, 2019

Post   Posted: Jun 05, 2025 - 19:21 Reply with quote Back to top

+1
StrangeFeller



Joined: May 13, 2023

Post   Posted: Jun 05, 2025 - 22:23 Reply with quote Back to top

Good idea.

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Sambre



Joined: Apr 14, 2020

Post   Posted: Jun 06, 2025 - 13:37 Reply with quote Back to top

I also like that it is a proportion of the original cost (and not a fixed value). So Stat increases are more impacted than skills. It looks good. I guess it's not on high priority right now but I'm interested to see that implemented.
Zelmor



Joined: Sep 29, 2022

Post   Posted: Jun 06, 2025 - 17:13 Reply with quote Back to top

Carthage wrote:
Obvious exploit of this is to intentionally not take any skills the last few games of a season and roll into game 1 with a bunch of players with very high SPP. Then you are at a huge advantage for game 2


You are not allowed to skill players before the first game of the season.
Zelmor



Joined: Sep 29, 2022

Post   Posted: Jun 06, 2025 - 17:16 Reply with quote Back to top

Also, Christer mentioned it a couple times that he wants FUMBBL to be a reference implementation of the Blood Bowl ruleset. So I don't think such homebrew things will make it to the site. There are more important things on the todo list.

Like the Unreal Engine 5 migration. :^)
Sp00keh



Joined: Dec 06, 2011

Post   Posted: Jun 06, 2025 - 19:00 Reply with quote Back to top

I think he means store up SPP, redraft cheaply, and spend the SPP after game1 of new season

Hence the payoff is in game2
Diablange



Joined: Apr 27, 2020

Post   Posted: Jun 06, 2025 - 19:36 Reply with quote Back to top

Sp00keh wrote:
I think he means store up SPP, redraft cheaply, and spend the SPP after game1 of new season

Hence the payoff is in game2

Yes, that's what he meant, and as I said, the proposed evolution doesn't change anything to the existing meta. Unless league admin force players to spend spp (in 2020 system at least, because in 2016 this was mandatory) you will have this. Although I don't like this meta, all players have access to that, so most likely, it doesn't even change much the TV difference between 2 teams.
Sp00keh



Joined: Dec 06, 2011

Post   Posted: Jun 06, 2025 - 19:42 Reply with quote Back to top

Sorry I was replying to Zelmor 😂
Diablange



Joined: Apr 27, 2020

Post   Posted: Jun 06, 2025 - 19:48 Reply with quote Back to top

Sp00keh wrote:
Sorry I was replying to Zelmor 😂

I know.

Now, sorry if my reply to you bothered you, was not intended. Smile
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