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Jared



Joined: Aug 16, 2003

Post   Posted: Jun 25, 2004 - 20:57 Reply with quote Back to top

now i admit i like an interesting challenge as much as the next man but i think the squigs have it far too rough

1.My squigs have a 1in6 chance of trying to eat my own players, i can have 6 squigs so i expect them to try and eat someone every turn

2.I can stop this with rerolls but they cost 70K each

3.most of the squigs are really stupid and need handlers but that fits nicelty with the theme, its a little harsh with 1 mening i have to have handlers where they start and where i want them to end up but hey

4.The odds are my squigs wont be on the pitch at the end because they are all 'illegal weapons' and liable to be sent off before the end leaving me with an underpowered goblin team

If they only had 2 negatraits id be a lot happier, still there you go

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olivers



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Jun 25, 2004 - 21:08 Reply with quote Back to top

I've played a few squiqs and it's OFAB rather than really hungry. RR are the best way to aviod them but 70K as you have already said.

They are quite good once they work but with vampflings and squiqs, kill the thralls and it works out ok. well for the opponent.
Jared



Joined: Aug 16, 2003

Post   Posted: Jun 25, 2004 - 21:27 Reply with quote Back to top

ANd you have the ref sending off your only good players

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Zy-Nox



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Jun 25, 2004 - 23:10 Reply with quote Back to top

mmm +3 on the injury roll when you bite the thrall,
not very appealing.
Not to sure how the squigs are now(stat wise)
but the ones i originaly proposed, were not really stupid, and they moved like the goblin fanatic.
If the numbers are limited this could be nicer. 0-4? and two squig hoppers.

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Jared



Joined: Aug 16, 2003

Post   Posted: Jun 25, 2004 - 23:42 Reply with quote Back to top

0-4 squigs Really stupid, Ofab, RSC, Pogo stick, no hands 5-4-4-7 70K

0-2 Squig hoppers RSC, Ofab, Pogo stick 5-4-3-7 90K

then you got your 40K thrall goblins, now i dont mind most of it, i would like the team better if not for the pogo stick causing them to be sent off by the ref, if it was just really stupid and ofab i could manage, it would be a bit hard but manageable

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Jared



Joined: Aug 16, 2003

Post   Posted: Jun 26, 2004 - 14:55 Reply with quote Back to top

oh and only agility skill access for the hoppers and im guessing the squigs as well,

Now thats what i call the most pointless team

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Jarnageddon



Joined: Nov 04, 2003

Post   Posted: Jun 26, 2004 - 15:14 Reply with quote Back to top

Three solutions I can think of:

1.Reduced cost for the Goblins
2.Give the Squigs and hoppers Leap and Sprint in place of pogo
3.Give the Squigs (not the hoppers) General Access
4.Give the Squigs and Hoppers AV8

ok, so there's four but I'm no accountant.

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SnakeSanders



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Jun 26, 2004 - 15:14 Reply with quote Back to top

Zy-nox as far as im aware its an unmodified injury roll on the thralls otherwise squigs would be unuseable! yeah i reckon lower the reroll cost by 10k or give squigs av 8 to help them out a bit.

i always thought a single troll would be quite nice to replace a squig and it would fit in nicely as the gobbos would have to herd the troll along with their sharp toothed friends!
celas



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Jun 26, 2004 - 16:41 Reply with quote Back to top

Stats for Squigs: Currently they have the worst win ratio in fumbbl including that of flings and goblins who play in ranked and dx W/T/L% = 26/20/54. THere are other threads on this topic and one conclusion someone made is that people do not know how to use them. I have a fairly successful Squig team (see: http://fumbbl.com/FUMBBL.php?page=team&op=view&team_id=80976), but if you take a look, I have not been able to roll doubles and with AV 7 and all the negatraits, at this point I will be facing teams with fairly developed big guys who all have block, tackle, multiple block MB, ST 5, etc., who will easily be able to rip into my main players. I agree that I would like to see some changes, but the admins in charge do not see a need for change yet.....

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celas



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Jun 26, 2004 - 16:43 Reply with quote Back to top

Oops, forgot to point out that by not roling doubles, you cannot have access to block or tackle, but I guess most of you knew that..... Wink

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thmbscrws



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Jun 26, 2004 - 20:10 Reply with quote Back to top

browwnrob_ni wrote:
Zy-nox as far as im aware its an unmodified injury roll on the thralls otherwise squigs would be unuseable!


The RSC don't modify the injury roll but stunty still does and that +1 on the injury when your getting hit by ofab is a huge deal imo.

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Lorion



Joined: Feb 04, 2004

Post   Posted: Jun 26, 2004 - 20:19 Reply with quote Back to top

Squigs are probably the worst team on fumbbl. I say give the squigs G and reduce their numbers to 2 might just make them playable.

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