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koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: Feb 19, 2020 - 23:12 Reply with quote Back to top

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Kick off 1st March

Create teams here!

This is an open league that runs for one calendar month.
The league is open to Secret League (ruleset 303) teams old and new.

Play any team in the league in any order at any time before the deadline. Schedule games in advance if you find that easier.

The league will kick off on the first of the month and run to the last day of the month.

Your team's best SIX consecutive matches count, though each team can play as many as possible before the deadline.

Each coach may enter as many teams as they wish. Spread the teams over different TVs to increase your chances of getting matches.

Win = 4pts, tie = 2pts, defeat = 1pt. (Subject to comments)

Comments are requested for ideas on:
Encouraging coaches to play more games,
Encouraging coaches to use a wider variety of races,
Discouraging picking and dodging.

The league is intended to be fairly laid back. Coaches should not berate or badger other coaches to play.

Playing in the league does NOT prevent you from playing in other leagues and tournaments at the same time.

You may play against teams outside the league, but you will not get points for those games.
So, encourage opponents to join.
Teams cannot join in the last week of competition.

Create teams here!

Sign them up here

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koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: Feb 19, 2020 - 23:12 Reply with quote Back to top

So, if we divide the races into four divisions e.g. by strength or popularity, which races should be in divisions 1,2,3 and 4? Assuming that 1 is the top.

Some data

Sylvania Pact
Elemental - Fire
Kingdom of Ind
Khainite Assassins
Clan Eshin
Avelorn
Cathay
Ironbreaker
Half-Elf
Savage Orc
Dryad
Hobgoblin Slavers
Albion
Khorne
Estalia
Lahmian
Snakemen
Sisters of Sigmar
Von Carstein
Strigoi
Daemons of Slaanesh
Mahrak
Kurgan
Elemental - Earth
Tilea
Norse Dwarf
Daemons of Nurgle
Numas
Hobgoblin
Pirates of Sartosa
Forest Goblin
Engineers
Beastmen
Giant
Araby
Black Dwarf
Necrarch
Witch Elf
Pygmy
Slaanesh
Ethereal
Border Princes
Daemons of Tzeentch
Sea Elf
Northern Nippon
Clan Mors
Blood Dragon
Black Ark
Gnoblar
Four Nations
Fimir
Daemons of Malal
Elemental - Air
Tzeentch
Flesh Golem
Gnome
Nippon
Centigor
Elemental - Water
Daemons of Khorne
Skink
Zandri
Slayer
Kislev
Nautican
Kurnous
Zoat
Ogre Kingdom
Clan Pestilens
Myrmidia
Half-Orc
Lybaras
Isha
Clan Skryre
Hung
Rasetra
Valkyrie
Ka-Sabar
Sons of Stromfels
Were
Bretonnian
Clan Moulder
Night Goblin
Undead Pirates
Treemen
Big 'Uns
Snotling
Lumbria
Squig

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koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: Feb 19, 2020 - 23:32 Reply with quote Back to top

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sokeeffe



Joined: Sep 19, 2009

Post   Posted: Feb 20, 2020 - 08:00 Reply with quote Back to top

koadah wrote:

Your team's best SIX consecutive matches count, though each team can play as many as possible before the deadline.


Is the consecutive part required?
Seems to encourage some picking to try and get your 6 easiest matches in a streak.
koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: Feb 20, 2020 - 11:19 Reply with quote Back to top

sokeeffe wrote:
koadah wrote:

Your team's best SIX consecutive matches count, though each team can play as many as possible before the deadline.


Is the consecutive part required?
Seems to encourage some picking to try and get your 6 easiest matches in a streak.


Good point. It can be removed depending on what people think.

Taking any 6 games does mean that there are likely to be more teams tied on 6 points at the end of the season.
So, do we have playoffs? Tie breaks will also encourage picking.

People who can only manage 4,5 or 6 games total will have pretty much no chance?

How about bonus points for playing vs high performing teams? Though we don't want people refusing to play teams that don't offer a bonus.

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Nelphine



Joined: Apr 01, 2011

Post   Posted: Feb 20, 2020 - 13:21 Reply with quote Back to top

Make the points based on fans. Highest points will come from high performing teams, but due to the random roll of fans, playing more games is more important than playing high performing teams.
ClayInfinity



Joined: Aug 15, 2003

Post   Posted: Feb 20, 2020 - 13:28 Reply with quote Back to top

Nelphine wrote:
Make the points based on fans. Highest points will come from high performing teams, but due to the random roll of fans, playing more games is more important than playing high performing teams.


Are you saying using FF to add to the points? Not sure what you mean?
Nelphine



Joined: Apr 01, 2011

Post   Posted: Feb 20, 2020 - 13:36 Reply with quote Back to top

No, the gate of the match. You can't just use it, as you need something for wins, but make the baseline based on your opponents fans (which is influenced by fan factor).
koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: Feb 20, 2020 - 19:16 Reply with quote Back to top

Interesting idea.

How about something like:
w/t/l 10/5/2 + Opponent's FF/4

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Nelphine



Joined: Apr 01, 2011

Post   Posted: Feb 20, 2020 - 20:21 Reply with quote Back to top

The purpose of using gate is specifically to ensure there's always a reason to keep playing.

In the version I had last considered I had come to the conclusion that gate should be worth gate / 1000 (so on average, 7 from the random part and 9 from ff of a team doing reasonably well).

A win is worth 10 (so it's only worth as much as the FF of a slightly above average team).

By making gate worth that much you make picking completely useless; by making the random factor with that much, you make playing games absolutely important. By making wins still important, the goal is still to win as many games as possible.
koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: Feb 20, 2020 - 21:01 Reply with quote Back to top

So, how many points for w/t/l?

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Nelphine



Joined: Apr 01, 2011

Post   Posted: Feb 20, 2020 - 21:13 Reply with quote Back to top

10/5/0 or something in that vicinity.

But like I said that was when I looked into it for a different meta league. Can't say if it's as appropriate for this one.
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