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Best Post Apocalyptic flop?
Waterworld
34%
 34%  [ 55 ]
Salute of the Jugger (called The Blood of heroes in some regions)
17%
 17%  [ 28 ]
The Postman
11%
 11%  [ 19 ]
Dredd (not the sly stallone one)
24%
 24%  [ 40 ]
Deathrace 2000
7%
 7%  [ 12 ]
Deathsport
1%
 1%  [ 2 ]
Cyborg
3%
 3%  [ 5 ]
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Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: Aug 05, 2020 - 16:40 Reply with quote Back to top

sebco wrote:
Another little changement : reroll gained thanks to Brilliant Coaching result on the Kick-Off Event table only can be used during the drive (or is lost).

We'll have to keep track of 3 different types of re-rolls : team classic one-s, leader one, brillant coaching one (and sometimes will have to chose between leader or brilliant coaching one).


well spotted.

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Kondor



Joined: Apr 04, 2008

Post   Posted: Aug 05, 2020 - 17:32 Reply with quote Back to top

Sp00keh wrote:
@ClayInfinity if you are stalling in a cage with ball carrier (B) just in range from the end zone, it only takes one additional Guy (G) to close the side of the cage and then you "can't" score without dice

X - X
- B G
X - X


Sure, but you are not factoring in your opponent's turn. Now if I want you to score and I cannot get into your cage, I will blitz to open a gap for you. I will push one of the front corners of your cage and then get out of the way. Now on your turn, your path is clear to the endzone and if you do not score you are wasting time.
Nelphine



Joined: Apr 01, 2011

Post   Posted: Aug 05, 2020 - 17:46 Reply with quote Back to top

Except you just reform the cage in the same formation, and you are no longer wasting time?
ArthurWynne



Joined: Sep 23, 2015

Post   Posted: Aug 05, 2020 - 18:10 Reply with quote Back to top

sebco wrote:
Another little changement : reroll gained thanks to Brilliant Coaching result on the Kick-Off Event table only can be used during the drive (or is lost).


That seems unnecessarily fiddly. It's not a big deal, but it's still unfortunate. I had hoped the new edition would be an opportunity to cut down on special case rules, not add more.
Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: Aug 05, 2020 - 18:43 Reply with quote Back to top

BIG NEWS JUST IN.

new rosters

Black Orc Team
0-16 Goblins Bruiser linemen 45k 6 2 3+ 4+ 8+ Dodge, Right Stuff, Stunty, Thick Skull A GPS
0-6 Black Orcs 90k 4 4 4+ 5+ 10+ Brawler, Grab GS AP
0-1 Trained Troll 115k 4 5 5+ 5+ 10+ always hungry, loner (3+), Mighty Blow (+1), Projectile Vomit, Really Stupid, Regen, TTM
RR 60k
tier 2

Special - Badlands Brawl, Bribery and corruption

Humans
Yes they are still a roster
0-16 Linemen 50k 6 3 3+ 4+ 9+ G As
0-2 Thrower 80k 6 3 3+ 2+ 9+ sure hands Pass GP AS
0-4 Catcher 60k 8 2 3+ 5+ 8+ Catch Dodge AG SP
0-4 Blitzer 85k 7 3 3+ 4+ 9+ Block GS AP
0-3 Halflings - standard stuff
0-1 Ogre 5 5 4+ 5+ 10+ Bone Head, Loner (4+), Mighty Blow (+1), THick SKull, TTM
RR 50k
tier 1
special - Old World Classic

Imperial Noble teams
0-16 Impereal Retainer Linemen 50k 6 3 3+ 4+ 8+ Fend G AS
0-2 Impereal Thrower 75k 6 3 3+ 3+ 9+ Pass, Running Pass GP AS
0-2 Noble Blitzer 105k 7 3 3+ 4+ 9+ Block, Catch GA SP
0-4 Bodyguards 90k 6 3 3+ 5+ 9+ Stand Firm Wrestle
0-1 Ogre 5 5 4+ 5+ 10+ Bone Head, Loner (4+), Mighty Blow (+1), THick SKull, TTM
RR 70k
tier 2
special - Old World Classic

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WhatBall



Joined: Aug 21, 2008

Post   Posted: Aug 05, 2020 - 18:44 Reply with quote Back to top

ArthurWynne wrote:
sebco wrote:
Another little changement : reroll gained thanks to Brilliant Coaching result on the Kick-Off Event table only can be used during the drive (or is lost).


That seems unnecessarily fiddly. It's not a big deal, but it's still unfortunate. I had hoped the new edition would be an opportunity to cut down on special case rules, not add more.

Agreed. Less things to keep track of is always better.

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pythrr



Joined: Mar 07, 2006

Post   Posted: Aug 05, 2020 - 18:56 Reply with quote Back to top

time wasting = good match management. will be interesting to see how this works.

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MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Aug 05, 2020 - 19:03 Reply with quote Back to top

Finally Human team has Halflings and Ogre can use his TTM!
Kondor



Joined: Apr 04, 2008

Post   Posted: Aug 05, 2020 - 19:04 Reply with quote Back to top

Nelphine wrote:
Except you just reform the cage in the same formation, and you are no longer wasting time?


No. If your turn starts with the ball carrier in range to score without rolling dice and you choose not to score, by this rule, you are wasting time. The check is made before you start moving any players. It does not matter what the situation is when the offense ends it's turn. You are wasting time if your turn starts with all the conditions met and then you do not score that turn.

If the defense leaves a clear path to the endzone for the ball carrier to score without rolling dice you have to take it or pay whatever the penalty may be for wasting time.

If you are able to stall with your ball carrier outside of scoring range, you are fine.
mister__joshua



Joined: Jun 20, 2007

Post   Posted: Aug 05, 2020 - 19:06
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@Garion: where is that from? Not an official announcement I can see?

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ClayInfinity



Joined: Aug 15, 2003

Post   Posted: Aug 05, 2020 - 19:08 Reply with quote Back to top

Sp00keh wrote:
@ClayInfinity if you are stalling in a cage with ball carrier (B) just in range from the end zone, it only takes one additional Guy (G) to close the side of the cage and then you "can't" score without dice

X - X
- B G
X - X


If there is no defenders and the MA is big enough, you can go out and around the corners of the cage. If you form it away from the endzone, then yes, you will eventually have to GFI to get in and the rule doesnt apply, but I dont think the phrasing of the "rule" is ambiguous.
MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Aug 05, 2020 - 19:09 Reply with quote Back to top

So, letting the opponent ball carrier to easily walk to End Zone could be a better tactic than aggressively shutting down his path, with this Time Wasting rule.
Sounds as a paradox. Razz
I understand the reasons behind the rule but sounds funny if you think of the situations it can create.
Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: Aug 05, 2020 - 19:11 Reply with quote Back to top

mister__joshua wrote:
@Garion: where is that from? Not an official announcement I can see?


100% confirmed, BB2 discord leak, the discord for the official computer game.

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MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Aug 05, 2020 - 19:14 Reply with quote Back to top

Does rolling dice include Blood Lust tests, Bonehead tests etc. for the Time Wasting rule?
Because for a Vampire could be risky trying to score even without GFI/Dodges etc. if there is no Thrall to bite nearby.
Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: Aug 05, 2020 - 19:18 Reply with quote Back to top

MattDakka wrote:
Does rolling dice include Blood Lust tests, Bonehead tests etc. for the Time Wasting rule?
Because for a Vampire could be risky trying to score even without GFI/Dodges etc. if there is no Thrall to bite nearby.


Most likely Blood lust is simplified now, so that you can score even if you fail, that way the roll is moot.

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