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Jopotzuki



Joined: Oct 07, 2011

Post   Posted: Jun 25, 2021 - 13:18 Reply with quote Back to top

So how are the custom mercenaries supposed to work? For example a stunty. It says I can reduce stats for -10.000 (to a minimum of 30.000). Does it mean I can make 3 reductions or I can reduce stats until the player costs 30.000?

So, can I get a ball&chain for 30.000 if I reduce ag by 2, pa by 2 and av by 2? Or if I can only make 3 reductions it would be 60.000?

Or do I first need to upgrade stats and then I can reduce other ones, so my player costs a minimum of 30.000? Then I could buy the b&c for 60.000 (90.000 in total)

Sigh, more poorly written rules by GW.

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Java



Joined: Jan 27, 2018

Post   Posted: Jun 25, 2021 - 14:05 Reply with quote Back to top

I think you can reduce away all you like, with a floor of 30k
Jopotzuki



Joined: Oct 07, 2011

Post 18 Posted: Jun 25, 2021 - 14:20 Reply with quote Back to top

Ma3 st5 ag5+ pa6+ av4+ ball & chain for 30.000. Anyone?

Ma5 st2 ag5+ pa6+ av6+ chainsaw for 30.000.

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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awambawamb



Joined: Feb 17, 2008

Post   Posted: Jun 25, 2021 - 16:24 Reply with quote Back to top

Jopotzuki wrote:
Ma3 st5 ag5+ pa6+ av4+ ball & chain for 30.000. Anyone?

Ma5 st2 ag5+ pa6+ av6+ chainsaw for 30.000.

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


this is.... madness!

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pokrjax



Joined: Dec 01, 2014

Post   Posted: Jun 25, 2021 - 22:01 Reply with quote Back to top

I honestly thought I easily understood what they meant when I read it, but now I have no clue.
Medon



Joined: Jan 28, 2015

Post   Posted: Jun 25, 2021 - 23:45 Reply with quote Back to top

If mercenaries are that good, why hire regular players at all? Just bring a squad of 3-4 positionals, don't hire journeyman, and fill it up with induced mercenaries
Azur



Joined: Nov 13, 2020

Post   Posted: Jun 25, 2021 - 23:59 Reply with quote Back to top

Not sure, but (for example) you can't start with AG -2. You have instead to go with AG -1 and PA -1. You can't reduce twice the same stat, unless clearly specified in the mercenary archetype.
But don't quote me on that.
The wording is not clear in the official book..... a new official GW FAQ would be great about this topic.
Kondor



Joined: Apr 04, 2008

Post   Posted: Jun 26, 2021 - 02:00 Reply with quote Back to top

Medon wrote:
If mercenaries are that good, why hire regular players at all? Just bring a squad of 3-4 positionals, don't hire journeyman, and fill it up with induced mercenaries


You may be onto something.
C0ddlefish



Joined: Sep 17, 2019

Post   Posted: Jun 26, 2021 - 08:25 Reply with quote Back to top

Rulebook says you must roster at least 11 players and if needed you "will" take Journeymen to get you to 11 before you are allowed to take Stars and Mercs - unless you are playing in "Exhibition" mode
Lyracian



Joined: Oct 29, 2015

Post   Posted: Jun 26, 2021 - 10:43 Reply with quote Back to top

Azur wrote:
Not sure, but (for example) you can't start with AG -2. You have instead to go with AG -1 and PA -1. You can't reduce twice the same stat, unless clearly specified in the mercenary archetype.
But don't quote me on that.
The wording is not clear in the official book..... a new official GW FAQ would be great about this topic.

That is the way I read it. Rules say “increase or decrease by up to 2 as follows”. Some Mercs have a cost for +2 but none have a cost for -2. It is a real shame the rules are sloppy in the way they are written. Shame really as this could have a really big plus for the new edition and instead we end up with rules that few people are likely to use.
VillainousIntent



Joined: Jun 01, 2015

Post   Posted: Jun 26, 2021 - 18:22 Reply with quote Back to top

ST5 ball and chain would be useless.
Coffee_Monster



Joined: Aug 01, 2019

Post   Posted: Jul 10, 2021 - 10:35 Reply with quote Back to top

I’m attending a tournament with mercs allowed, I’m still not 100% sure if I’m doing this right, never used them before.

Can I pick a big guy, 130, pick a general skill +40(170), pick a mutation +40(210), pick AV +20(230), pick troll package -10(220), ag reduced -10(210), passing reduced by 2 to zero -20(190).

Is this correct? I’m guessing you can reduce passing to nothing?
Jopotzuki



Joined: Oct 07, 2011

Post   Posted: Jul 10, 2021 - 15:30 Reply with quote Back to top

You should ask the tournament organizers opinion, because people interpet the mercenary rules in different way, and it needs a GW FAQ.

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