harvestmouse
Joined: May 13, 2007
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Apr 29, 2013 - 14:44 |
 
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| KenThis wrote: | what if we want to write about how great clawpomb or min/max is does it go here?
maybe you shouldn't have the 'sucks' suffix but be a bit more open to all sets of views.. |
Well I certainly wouldn't advise you starting another forum topic. Last time you did that, it turned into 10 pages of 'let's get kenthis', which then got worse when you tried to placate the situation by justifying your views and mindset. |
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BAJones
Joined: Oct 04, 2012
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Apr 29, 2013 - 14:57 |
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| Roland wrote: | just foul them!
they're lying down (edited)
HM |
So what do you do when fouling doesnt break armour, ref sends the fouling player off or both ? |
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Roland
Joined: May 12, 2004
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Apr 29, 2013 - 15:04 |
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| BAJones wrote: | | Roland wrote: | just foul them!
they're lying down (edited)
HM |
So what do you do when fouling doesnt break armour, ref sends the fouling player off or both ? |
well, if I face a multiple cpomb team and there's no chance of winning, I usually try to gang foul with a dirty player. If that sends my player off, it's actually good (!) because there's one less player for the opponent to hit. |
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BAJones
Joined: Oct 04, 2012
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Apr 29, 2013 - 15:10 |
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fair comment
but ideally u want to go into a game with a decent chance of winning
in this situation no rookie team is going to have dirty player or sneaky git |
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uuni
Joined: Mar 12, 2010
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Apr 29, 2013 - 15:13 |
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BAJones
Joined: Oct 04, 2012
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Apr 29, 2013 - 15:16 |
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| uuni wrote: | | Score more often? |
what with a CD Rookie Team ?
yeah right lol |
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Roland
Joined: May 12, 2004
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Apr 29, 2013 - 15:17 |
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| BAJones wrote: | fair comment
but ideally u want to go into a game with a decent chance of winning
in this situation no rookie team is going to have dirty player or sneaky git |
you're right, it is a quite boring team build.
but it's a part of the box... |
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uuni
Joined: Mar 12, 2010
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Apr 29, 2013 - 15:21 |
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My advice to minxmax has some time been to start from lower TV. If you start lower TV, minmaxer also has fewer TV to play with.
Start about 910k. Fire linemen and buy positionals, when you get money. Let TV grow when you have got something for the TV, most likely Block, Dodge, Guard or Mighty Blow. Many positionals are too expensive for their TV when they are rookies. Don't buy too many rerolls - try to play with 2, it makes you play better. |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Apr 29, 2013 - 15:25 |
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Beerox
Joined: Feb 14, 2008
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Apr 29, 2013 - 16:19 |
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| uuni wrote: | | Score more often? |
I am reading this to say "put 3 defenseless guys on the LOS more often" |
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JimmyFantastic
Joined: Feb 06, 2007
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Apr 29, 2013 - 16:27 |
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Clawpomb min/max does suck, Amazon min/max is a lot more effective. |
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radge
Joined: Nov 20, 2012
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Apr 29, 2013 - 17:23 |
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I've thanked harvestmouse personally for his dedication against the clawpombers. I'm going to try and elaborate my reasons for that here.
Some argue: 'Let people enjoy this game in any way they choose'. I can agree with that to some extent - it's just when a few people's idea of fun ruins the fun for everyone else it becomes a problem. The Claw/Piling On/Mighty Blow skill combination is far to efficient at hurting other teams. I used to have fun playing Blackbox; I found that if I just kept my teams' value at 1500k or below I could avoid the worst clawpomb teams and still enjoy the whole concept of not knowing who I'd meet next. I would have preferred to be able to build beyond that, but it was still a fairly good compromise. The extremely min/maxed clawpomb teams ruins the last bit of fun with blackbox; not only are they impossible to avoid, they will absolutely destroy you without having to use hardly any coaching skill at all - just point, click, kill. I've got a wolf with just claw (obviously) and mighty blow, which is too efficient that alone - adding piling on would just be overkill, quite literally. It's so much more fun outplaying an opponent with skill rather than by having much better odds at succeeding with armour and injury rolls.
For those of us who work full time there is often not enough time for more than one game per day - it's simply takes the fun out of the game when you don't stand a chance of winning and also many hours of carefully developing your team goes to waste. That's something that can happen against any team if the dices are bad enough, but with min/maxed clawpombers it's far too inevitable.
One solution would be to put all the clawpomber teams in their own division, but besides the trouble in categorizing the teams it wouldn't work anyway because the clawpomb coaches don't even want to play other clawpomb teams - their idea of fun is to destroy their opponents without any risk of getting hurt themselves.
I'm sorry for my incoherent ramblings. I hope at least some of it made sense.
Yours,
radge |
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Lorebass
Joined: Jun 25, 2010
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| Woodstock wrote: | | Purplegoo wrote: | | I question the value of anything Cyanide thought up... |
I think it fits perfectly, Cyanide and CPOMB, Dumb and Dumber.. |
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While i agree Cyanide sucks at Warhammer. Impire is amazing fun |
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Calcium
Joined: Apr 08, 2007
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Apr 29, 2013 - 17:34 |
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| radge wrote: | I'm sorry for my incoherent ramblings. I hope at least some of it made sense.
Yours,
radge |
It made perfect sense, but allow me to shorten it for you.
WAAHHHHHH....MY PIXELS ALL DIE.....WAAHHHHHHHH....
I PLAY BLOOD BOWL BUT HATE THE BLOOD.....WAAHHHHHHHH
There. Sorted. |
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JimmyFantastic
Joined: Feb 06, 2007
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Apr 29, 2013 - 17:53 |
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| Calcium wrote: | | radge wrote: | I'm sorry for my incoherent ramblings. I hope at least some of it made sense.
Yours,
radge |
It made perfect sense, but allow me to shorten it for you.
WAAHHHHHH....MY PIXELS ALL DIE.....WAAHHHHHHHH....
I PLAY BLOOD BOWL BUT HATE THE BLOOD.....WAAHHHHHHHH
There. Sorted. |
LOL yup this sums up the attitude of basically everyone who has ever complained about c-pomb! |
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