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RedDevilCG



Joined: Jan 09, 2010

Post   Posted: May 27, 2014 - 23:59 Reply with quote Back to top

All roster changes aside, how do you feel about NTBB's changes?
Dan-Da-Man



Joined: May 14, 2012

Post   Posted: May 28, 2014 - 00:10 Reply with quote Back to top

how do we contact these idiots that come up with theses rules?

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JackassRampant



Joined: Feb 26, 2011

Post   Posted: May 28, 2014 - 00:21 Reply with quote Back to top

Hey, I'm not gonna fault Plasmoid for trying. Better than Grandma Wendy, who gave up on a vibrant, enthusiastic cult community at the peak of its development. A cult community so strong we've created a cottage industry that's still going, and a not-for-profit community that still has the momentum to generate forum threads bitching about it for literally decades after the fact.

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koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: May 28, 2014 - 00:23 Reply with quote Back to top

JackassRampant wrote:
Meh, there's a baby in that bathwater (some ClawPOMB nerf would be nice, Goblin Trolls should lose Loner, etc.), but I'd rather have LRB6 than NTBB any time (even NTBB with LRB6 rosters). Really it shows that we as a community mostly don't agree on most of our issues with the ruleset (not that there aren't a few common gripes...), and to the extent we do, the common ground on how to go forward is limited to a few little tweaks.

This is about the time we can wish we had a manufacturer or at least a functioning rules committee.


The BBRC talk is nothing to do with NTBB. That only relates to CRP+.

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PaddyMick



Joined: Jan 03, 2012

Post   Posted: May 28, 2014 - 00:23 Reply with quote Back to top

How much do you reckon GW would want for the rights to the game?
Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: May 28, 2014 - 00:24 Reply with quote Back to top

RedDevilCG wrote:
All roster changes aside, how do you feel about NTBB's changes?


Claw is nerfed too much and in the wrong way, not allowing mb to stack isn't great. I'd rather it just reduced av by 2 to a minimum of 7 so that av 10 players like trees, deathroller etc weren't so easily hurt.

PO change is ok, prefer many others I have seen though.

hate the sneaky git rule.

really dont like the bank rules, they punish teams like vamps the most in my experience.

concessions rule, don't care really.

Spiralling expenses shouldn't start sooner, its fine as is.

Wizard costing more, yeah i guess.


overall not good.

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Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: May 28, 2014 - 00:28 Reply with quote Back to top

PaddyMick wrote:
How much do you reckon GW would want for the rights to the game?


galak asked once, they said 1 million pounds. but he said he wasnt sure how serious that was, or whether they were just trying to get rid of him.

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pizzamogul



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Post   Posted: May 28, 2014 - 00:55 Reply with quote Back to top

Garion wrote:
1 million pounds

So. all we have to do is trade them Shadow? What are we waiting for???

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Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: May 28, 2014 - 00:56 Reply with quote Back to top

maybe we need a fumbbl euro millions syndicate Razz

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JackassRampant



Joined: Feb 26, 2011

Post   Posted: May 28, 2014 - 01:10 Reply with quote Back to top

There have to be 10,000 fans with £100 apiece: BB in public domain, can you see it?

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JimmyFantastic



Joined: Feb 06, 2007

Post   Posted: May 28, 2014 - 01:12 Reply with quote Back to top

I would rather it stayed as is than be at the mercy of internet whiners.

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koadah



Joined: Mar 30, 2005

Post   Posted: May 28, 2014 - 01:29 Reply with quote Back to top

JimmyFantastic wrote:
I would rather it stayed as is than be at the mercy of internet whiners.


Nonsense! As long as the whiners agree with me it will be fine. Wink

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JackassRampant



Joined: Feb 26, 2011

Post   Posted: May 28, 2014 - 01:37 Reply with quote Back to top

JimmyFantastic wrote:
I would rather it stayed as is than be at the mercy of internet whiners.
Oh, totally. That's why I say the game as-is should be made public domain. Chess, Backgammon, Go, Dominoes, Mankala, Checkers, Mah Jongg, Blood Bowl… Tiddlywinks... maybe we can have one last revision to clean out all the WFB IP. Orc Blockers, Rat-Men, whatever. Of course variants will pop up, that's fine. That's true of some of the above games too. Only this is a minis game….

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fidius



Joined: Jun 17, 2011

Post   Posted: May 28, 2014 - 01:49 Reply with quote Back to top

Some enterprising CBV could probably come up with a fair value for the rights and present it to them officially. It would basically involve remaining sales of miniatures inventory (not much), branding rights (spin-off games like BBTM), and whatever they take from Cyanide profits, discounted into the foreseeable future. The largest by far of those is probably Cyanide, but even that doesn't seem like much to me. Would be really interesting to find out.

Their stock price has done surprisingly well the past few years...
JackassRampant



Joined: Feb 26, 2011

Post   Posted: May 28, 2014 - 02:06 Reply with quote Back to top

I wonder what the effect on the value would be if we were to make it public domain, so BBTM would really be unaffected, FF's IP just like any other spinoff of any public domain game (3d Chess, say), and ditto GW's remaining inventory; that is, they'd be able to sell Blood Bowl (or chess...) product the same way anyone else could. Cyanide would continue to be Cyanide, but someone else could just as easily come along and do it better.

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