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Dadde



Joined: May 20, 2022

Post   Posted: Jan 30, 2024 - 15:03 Reply with quote Back to top

Vampire rolls bloodlust and turnover ,failing to rr with his Pro.

The next turn, same vampire Rolls again bloodlust and can't RR it with Pro..are we sure this is correct?
razmus



Joined: Jun 23, 2017

Post   Posted: Jan 30, 2024 - 15:31 Reply with quote Back to top

Which game is that? What turn?

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MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: Jan 30, 2024 - 16:13 Reply with quote Back to top

The Vampire had no Tackle zones (due to failing the bloodlust on former turn) and, if a player has no Tackle zones, they can't use Pro.
Yes, it's correct.
Decksign



Joined: Mar 25, 2016

Post   Posted: Jan 30, 2024 - 17:14 Reply with quote Back to top

Actually mr Dakka, I disagree.

Suppose your vampire has pro and is STANDING, but has lost its tackle zone turn 1.
You decide to use the same vampire on turn 2.

From my understanding the sequence is this :
-Coach decides to activate vampire.
-Coach declares a movement action (or any other action).
-The vampire is now ACTIVATED, thus regaining its tackle zone, meaning all his skills are now usable.
-Coach rolls for bloodlust after declaring action, rolls a 1.

In this situation the vampire is activated, and his Pro skill should be eligible to use and potentially reroll the previously failed Bloodlust.


Had the vampire been PRONE at the begining of their activation, said vampire wouldn't have recovered their tackle zone before a bloodlust trait roll.


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Sp00keh



Joined: Dec 06, 2011

Post   Posted: Jan 30, 2024 - 19:01 Reply with quote Back to top

"The vampire is now ACTIVATED" << this

Activating clears the negatrait effects and you re-gain tacklezones and skills
You then declare your action, and then roll to see if you're affected by the negatrait this turn.

If you fail then you'd lose tacklezones and skills again. For bonehead / really stupid etc this would happen immediately, but for Bloodlust it happens at the end of the vamp's activation


If you can't Pro the Bloodlust then it'd mean your vamp is not activated.. ? But they are..
Sp00keh



Joined: Dec 06, 2011

Post   Posted: Jan 30, 2024 - 20:47 Reply with quote Back to top

Related previous thread about why you can't use Pro from Prone

https://fumbbl.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=32167&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30
Candlejack



Joined: Aug 02, 2003

Post   Posted: Jan 30, 2024 - 21:56 Reply with quote Back to top

To investigate this I would need to know which game this happened in and what turn. So far I could not reproduce this.

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