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2014-11-16 19:45:39
6 votes, rating 5.8
6 votes, rating 5.8
If you could change one player...
So after seeing a good few blogs and forum threads debating usefulness and how good/bad some players are (especially the big guys) I thought I'd put this question out there:
If you could change only 1 positional on any 1 roster in any way and as much you liked, what would you change and why?
Would you give somebody a nerf, or somebody else a buff? Would you rework/replace a positional completely? change what skills they take on normals or doubles? Obviously a lot of balance talk often goes into "fixing" skills and CPOMB bashing, so I just thought it might be refreshing to take a different angle on improving (or at least agreeing on) the game.
If you could change only 1 positional on any 1 roster in any way and as much you liked, what would you change and why?
Would you give somebody a nerf, or somebody else a buff? Would you rework/replace a positional completely? change what skills they take on normals or doubles? Obviously a lot of balance talk often goes into "fixing" skills and CPOMB bashing, so I just thought it might be refreshing to take a different angle on improving (or at least agreeing on) the game.
Comments
Posted by Dominik on 2014-11-16 19:47:49
Tomb Guardians: No decay
Posted by Lorebass on 2014-11-16 19:50:33
Killstack players: Get decay
Posted by Madmin on 2014-11-16 19:54:24
heh, why am i not surprised Decay on TG's was the very first thing :) I'm just not really a fan of decay on anyone at all :P
Posted by Malmir on 2014-11-16 20:01:09
Chaos Warrior: minus one movement. Chaos are just a little bit too good and whilst I'd much rather the obvious was sorted, as a minor tweak it could balance it nicely.
Posted by Wizfall on 2014-11-16 20:01:48
Got no problem with decay on TG, would be too easy to develop a too powerful core of multiple "double skills" TG otherwise, especially on Fumbbl IMO.
Dark elf assassin on the other hand are a joke, the worst positional of BB.
Not that DE need them but such a waste because they are so cool, unique to DE and great for the fluff.
Dark elf assassin on the other hand are a joke, the worst positional of BB.
Not that DE need them but such a waste because they are so cool, unique to DE and great for the fluff.
Posted by Chainsaw on 2014-11-16 20:12:34
If TGs were immune to claw, decay wouldn't be as much of an issue.
Posted by the_cursed_one on 2014-11-16 20:12:58
Decay removal on tomb guardians, mummies where dangerous sure, but the team cant ball so tis balanced
Posted by Madmin on 2014-11-16 20:13:09
so would you change them in some way or just take them off the DE roster without adding a replacement? maybe an "assassin" would be more fouling-based? I've also always thought that not enough pieces have stab- I wouldn't want too many more, but it seems weird that only DE can have it without inducements.
Posted by JimmyFantastic on 2014-11-16 20:15:48
Human Catcher 0-2, AG4, remove catch.
Posted by member1234 on 2014-11-16 20:27:14
Drofs, Zons, TGs, WDs, Snotlings, Assassins... too many..
Probably ST3, 0-2 Human catchers.
Probably ST3, 0-2 Human catchers.
Posted by Wizfall on 2014-11-16 20:28:03
DE assassin 7/3/4/7 Stab, Shadowing, Dodge 110k
Very good fluff wise IMO (assassins make me think fast and agile), shadowing gets some more use and add another option to the roster (+mobility).
Still not really worth it IMO (i would rather have a blodger 6/3/4/8 lineman for the same price) but DE are powerful enough so it should just be an "ok" sub optimal build.
Very good fluff wise IMO (assassins make me think fast and agile), shadowing gets some more use and add another option to the roster (+mobility).
Still not really worth it IMO (i would rather have a blodger 6/3/4/8 lineman for the same price) but DE are powerful enough so it should just be an "ok" sub optimal build.
Posted by Calcium on 2014-11-16 20:28:07
Tomb Guardians NO DECAY
Posted by cdassak on 2014-11-16 20:29:55
Slann Blitzers to start with block
Posted by badger89 on 2014-11-16 20:32:24
Tomb Guardians NO DECAY, but less of them max 2.
Posted by akaRenton on 2014-11-16 20:35:15
TG no decay
Posted by WoodPusher on 2014-11-16 20:36:47
move the DE assassin to a different team, with appropriate stat changes etc. maybe make him a 0-1 7337 shadowing, stab, animosity GA access player on Underworld.
Posted by Wizfall on 2014-11-16 20:42:09
Orc thrower AV9 same price
Orc blitzer +10k
Skink -10k
Saurus +10k
Orc blitzer +10k
Skink -10k
Saurus +10k
Posted by huff on 2014-11-16 20:47:12
There's a couple of players. (No adjustments for price provided).
High Elf: Give them back their positional 'warrior' names.
BoNurgle: Normal Mutation Access
Longboards: Lose tackle, blitzers gain it.
Human Catcher: St3 (@jimmy- Human types don't get 4ag/4ST, gotta keep with the fluff even with regards to balance)
TGs: Couple changes, including lose decay and gain BT or Grab.
Thralls: Gain Thick Skull
Gobbo Troll: Lose Loner
Troll Slayer: Lose block, get juggs.
Thro & Blitz Ra: Gain Thick Skull.
Human & Orc Blitzers: Make them the same price.
It's already long enough.
High Elf: Give them back their positional 'warrior' names.
BoNurgle: Normal Mutation Access
Longboards: Lose tackle, blitzers gain it.
Human Catcher: St3 (@jimmy- Human types don't get 4ag/4ST, gotta keep with the fluff even with regards to balance)
TGs: Couple changes, including lose decay and gain BT or Grab.
Thralls: Gain Thick Skull
Gobbo Troll: Lose Loner
Troll Slayer: Lose block, get juggs.
Thro & Blitz Ra: Gain Thick Skull.
Human & Orc Blitzers: Make them the same price.
It's already long enough.
Posted by huff on 2014-11-16 20:50:28
Slann Blitzer ('Marker' may be more appropriate): Make them cheaper
Posted by WoodPusher on 2014-11-16 20:54:27
I dunno know if I wanna see the juggs on a troll slayer
Posted by PaddyMick on 2014-11-16 21:08:49
Make snotlings into gobbos
Posted by scipio_uranus on 2014-11-16 21:23:55
Chaos Warrior:
5439 Block 120K
(Stat-wise the same as the ones we have now, just add Block and up the price by 20K. So Chaos would finally have some starting skill, albeit at a price. At the same time, that would make the Warriors start out as "OP" as they are fluff-wise. And it'd free up a skill slot to make them mutate in maybe some more enertaining ways than the already ubiquitous CPOMB kill-stack. Though one could argue that the kill stacks would stay the same, just add Tentacles or Prehensile Tail or Foul Appearance to the load... :/)
5439 Block 120K
(Stat-wise the same as the ones we have now, just add Block and up the price by 20K. So Chaos would finally have some starting skill, albeit at a price. At the same time, that would make the Warriors start out as "OP" as they are fluff-wise. And it'd free up a skill slot to make them mutate in maybe some more enertaining ways than the already ubiquitous CPOMB kill-stack. Though one could argue that the kill stacks would stay the same, just add Tentacles or Prehensile Tail or Foul Appearance to the load... :/)
Posted by JimmyFantastic on 2014-11-16 21:39:21
The fluff is arbitrary for 3rd ed. Humans got s4 and ag4 in 2nd ed.
Posted by keggiemckill on 2014-11-16 22:11:26
Ag 4 Slann Blitzer.
I like the thought of removing Tackle on all dwarf linemen and giving Dwarf Blitzer Tackle.
I like the thought of removing Tackle on all dwarf linemen and giving Dwarf Blitzer Tackle.
Posted by Jeffro on 2014-11-17 02:08:19
Khemri and Ogres were both needlessly nerfed. No decay on TG's and goblins back on ogre teams.
Posted by drunkagent on 2014-11-17 09:48:07
Human Blitzer ma7 st4 ag4 av8 and no decay on TG's.
Posted by the_Sage on 2014-11-17 11:26:51
gobbo troll: lose loner would be very high on my list, actually.
Posted by Calcium on 2014-11-17 12:47:23
Some nice suggestions form Huff in this post
Posted by Nightbird on 2014-11-17 13:57:59
Just a few off top of my head.
Ogre teams gain halflings & lose snots. Fits fluff better.
human catchers ST3.
undead mummies gain G access.
Ogre teams gain halflings & lose snots. Fits fluff better.
human catchers ST3.
undead mummies gain G access.
Posted by T3mpano on 2014-11-17 14:26:00
Wood elf catcher, remove sprint and get MA9.
Wait a minute... ;)
Wait a minute... ;)
Posted by Beerox on 2014-11-17 17:42:41
Well... considering the fact that Decay and Regeneration on the same player is the silliest duality imaginable...
Remove Decay from TGs
Remove Decay from TGs
Posted by Valen on 2014-11-17 18:25:58
Have we really got this far without anyone mentioning that little fecker the wardancer. Remove block
Posted by Jopotzuki on 2014-11-17 19:06:25
I don't think that wardancers should be changed at all. Remowing block from them would make the team worst of the elf teams.
Posted by the_Sage on 2014-11-17 20:48:32
wardancer: replace block with wrestle.
(especially with better fouling!)
(especially with better fouling!)
Posted by Relezite on 2014-11-17 23:36:34
High Elf Blitzer +AV +10k