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2025-07-20 02:21:56
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Open Question: Should I keep playing?
Don't get me wrong, I like, even love Blood Bowl, but frankly, I think I am too stupid to play it.
No matter how hard I try, I keep losing every time. Of course, you could blame it on the dice and such, but not over and over. I try to read up, I try to perform better, but somehow it all falls apart anyway. I get that you first and foremost play the game for fun...
But frankly, it is straight up depressing and demotivating seeing your winrate to drop down straight to 10%, and then probably go lower and lower. I kind of feel like I've become a straight up "challenge for a free win option", and while I absolutely love the game, it still gives me a lot of fun... This irks me.
I don't even want to be some professional player, who wins 50 matches for breakfast, but being able to I dunno, have a +14 losing streak be at least -not the usual- would be a relief. At the moment, I feel like it is just a matter of time till I get crowned the worst Coach on FUMBBL.
No matter how hard I try, I keep losing every time. Of course, you could blame it on the dice and such, but not over and over. I try to read up, I try to perform better, but somehow it all falls apart anyway. I get that you first and foremost play the game for fun...
But frankly, it is straight up depressing and demotivating seeing your winrate to drop down straight to 10%, and then probably go lower and lower. I kind of feel like I've become a straight up "challenge for a free win option", and while I absolutely love the game, it still gives me a lot of fun... This irks me.
I don't even want to be some professional player, who wins 50 matches for breakfast, but being able to I dunno, have a +14 losing streak be at least -not the usual- would be a relief. At the moment, I feel like it is just a matter of time till I get crowned the worst Coach on FUMBBL.
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Posted by gettym on 2025-07-20 03:36:49
Short answer: Yes. If you like the game, keep playing. Blood Bowl is a big, beautiful community, and the game is about so much more than win rates (says the guy with a a sub-40% win rate--aka me).
Long answer: I know several coaches who had very good experiences with the 145 club, where there are great coaches who will mentor others. I'm sure others here would recommend that as well.
Also, if you're not already playing on tabletop, I highly recommend looking for a league/tournament in your area. This is where that big beautiful community part comes in. Playing face-to-face, watching dice rattle and spin in a dice tray, talking to other coaches about their favorite teams, players, and tactics, and of course sharing harrowing tales of our bad beats on the field ... This is, for me at least, what makes Blood Bowl the best game going.
Don't get me wrong, FUMBBL is awesome, and the ability to play on line can't be beat for convenience and efficiency, but I find I have to mix in a healthy dose of tabletop to keep my sanity.
Anyway, that's just my two cents, but I hope you stick with it.
Long answer: I know several coaches who had very good experiences with the 145 club, where there are great coaches who will mentor others. I'm sure others here would recommend that as well.
Also, if you're not already playing on tabletop, I highly recommend looking for a league/tournament in your area. This is where that big beautiful community part comes in. Playing face-to-face, watching dice rattle and spin in a dice tray, talking to other coaches about their favorite teams, players, and tactics, and of course sharing harrowing tales of our bad beats on the field ... This is, for me at least, what makes Blood Bowl the best game going.
Don't get me wrong, FUMBBL is awesome, and the ability to play on line can't be beat for convenience and efficiency, but I find I have to mix in a healthy dose of tabletop to keep my sanity.
Anyway, that's just my two cents, but I hope you stick with it.
Posted by Nightbird on 2025-07-20 07:45:56
Keep on keeping on coach. This is the best board game ever made IMO. You say you are having fun so it can't be all that bad right! Right?
Looks like you are already doing .145, so keep that up. And if TT isn't an option for you, then find a way to role-play your teams, here on FUMBBL, & make the game more fun, in that way, as well. IE: make team bios, learn BB code, etc.
Also, I'd say stick to only tier 1 teams, for the time being, so you have a better chance at wins/win-rate increasing if that bothers you very much.
BB can be a brutal game as far as learning the ropes goes. You just gotta keep at it. Hope this helps.
Looks like you are already doing .145, so keep that up. And if TT isn't an option for you, then find a way to role-play your teams, here on FUMBBL, & make the game more fun, in that way, as well. IE: make team bios, learn BB code, etc.
Also, I'd say stick to only tier 1 teams, for the time being, so you have a better chance at wins/win-rate increasing if that bothers you very much.
BB can be a brutal game as far as learning the ropes goes. You just gotta keep at it. Hope this helps.
Posted by The_Murker on 2025-07-20 08:27:28
You say it's fun, just to play, so there is hope. If you can appreciate getting better at the game and have fun along the way, this is very good.
Beware.. as soon as you do get a bit good, every loss will hurt even more. You will EXPECT to win sometimes, and when you don't, it will sting. Try and stay positive, and always remember this moment.. when winning was rare, and would be very much appreciated, rather than expected.
Also know this.. as you improve, people playing you along the way will EXPECT to defeat you. That is their problem.. but many will be upset or sour at the loss to a 'bad' player. You can try and enjoy shedding this mantra of 'a sure win' and not let other people's disappointment ruin your improvement.
But that's the future. First, you must improve. So Rule #1: Don't make it harder on yourself than it needs to be. Don't give yourself dumb rules like "I don't foul" or "I only play halflings." If you want to win, choose a good team and learn how to play it well. Focus. Learn. Don't spread your brain around trying to learn and try everything at once. Learn the basics with a good team. This means orcs.
Play orcs for 100 games and learn a few things.
Learn how nice ST4 players are. Good road blocks.
Learn how good GUARD skill is getting you more blocks against a non-Guard team.
Learn how much better it is having AV10+ than AV8+. Less death. More skills.
Get a few key skills to allow you to 'make moves', and start doing a few important things.
A) Put frenzy on a ST4 orc and learn to surf things off the pitch. Watch how you get yourself surfed right after if you don't plan. Learn how a surf threat changes your opponent's game.
B) Put Break Tackle on a blitzer ASAP. Get him the ball on offense and move him slowly towards the goal line in a cage. Sometimes all you need to win is a 2+ dodge to score. Give yourself this option.
C) Have 3+ re-rolls and NEVER piss away the last one unless it wins you the game. KEEP your last re-roll for the WIN. Learn this, or keep losing. Good players will try and bleed away your re-rolls as fast as they can, and you are basically harmless without them.
D) Nuffle is literally going to give you WINs sometimes. Don't do dumb things and give them away again. The better things are going, the more lazy you are going to feel like playing. Do the opposite. Be CAREFUL when winning. Keep making smart blocks, and keep the ball safe. ALWAYS keep moving slowly towards the goal line, with the ball protected.
If you really just want free wins, play skaven with 4 gutter runners at low TV, and you will win 1 of every 7 games just by being fast and getting the BLITZ, or scooping up balls khemri are too dumb to pick-up. But you won't improve as fast as learning to play orcs well.
Get good at orcs. Smash things. Out number your opponent, then play carefully and thoughtfully after that. Then learn other teams, and how they are different. (and more challenging)
Good luck. Be nice to people, and keep having fun.
Beware.. as soon as you do get a bit good, every loss will hurt even more. You will EXPECT to win sometimes, and when you don't, it will sting. Try and stay positive, and always remember this moment.. when winning was rare, and would be very much appreciated, rather than expected.
Also know this.. as you improve, people playing you along the way will EXPECT to defeat you. That is their problem.. but many will be upset or sour at the loss to a 'bad' player. You can try and enjoy shedding this mantra of 'a sure win' and not let other people's disappointment ruin your improvement.
But that's the future. First, you must improve. So Rule #1: Don't make it harder on yourself than it needs to be. Don't give yourself dumb rules like "I don't foul" or "I only play halflings." If you want to win, choose a good team and learn how to play it well. Focus. Learn. Don't spread your brain around trying to learn and try everything at once. Learn the basics with a good team. This means orcs.
Play orcs for 100 games and learn a few things.
Learn how nice ST4 players are. Good road blocks.
Learn how good GUARD skill is getting you more blocks against a non-Guard team.
Learn how much better it is having AV10+ than AV8+. Less death. More skills.
Get a few key skills to allow you to 'make moves', and start doing a few important things.
A) Put frenzy on a ST4 orc and learn to surf things off the pitch. Watch how you get yourself surfed right after if you don't plan. Learn how a surf threat changes your opponent's game.
B) Put Break Tackle on a blitzer ASAP. Get him the ball on offense and move him slowly towards the goal line in a cage. Sometimes all you need to win is a 2+ dodge to score. Give yourself this option.
C) Have 3+ re-rolls and NEVER piss away the last one unless it wins you the game. KEEP your last re-roll for the WIN. Learn this, or keep losing. Good players will try and bleed away your re-rolls as fast as they can, and you are basically harmless without them.
D) Nuffle is literally going to give you WINs sometimes. Don't do dumb things and give them away again. The better things are going, the more lazy you are going to feel like playing. Do the opposite. Be CAREFUL when winning. Keep making smart blocks, and keep the ball safe. ALWAYS keep moving slowly towards the goal line, with the ball protected.
If you really just want free wins, play skaven with 4 gutter runners at low TV, and you will win 1 of every 7 games just by being fast and getting the BLITZ, or scooping up balls khemri are too dumb to pick-up. But you won't improve as fast as learning to play orcs well.
Get good at orcs. Smash things. Out number your opponent, then play carefully and thoughtfully after that. Then learn other teams, and how they are different. (and more challenging)
Good luck. Be nice to people, and keep having fun.
Posted by MrCushtie on 2025-07-20 09:00:04
I went through similar a few years ago, because although winning shouldn't be what defines if you're happy or not, it's pretty hard to be happy if you're never feeling like you have a chance.
What really helped me was when a coach took me under his wing and explained, very clearly and without any attempt to sugarcoat it, where I was going wrong. And then I played the same team (Chaos Chosen, which isn't tier 1) for 50-odd games, and got better. What I think might be holding you back here is the wonderful fluff of Blood Bowl means you've created lots and lots of teams and not focussed on getting good at one of them first. So whether it's orcs, or skaven, or dark elves, or undead, pick an 'easy' team that appeals, and then just go hard at it for a few months.
And look, your win rate isn't that bad - you've won 25% of your games. I've played about 6 times as many games as you have ... and won 20% of them
What really helped me was when a coach took me under his wing and explained, very clearly and without any attempt to sugarcoat it, where I was going wrong. And then I played the same team (Chaos Chosen, which isn't tier 1) for 50-odd games, and got better. What I think might be holding you back here is the wonderful fluff of Blood Bowl means you've created lots and lots of teams and not focussed on getting good at one of them first. So whether it's orcs, or skaven, or dark elves, or undead, pick an 'easy' team that appeals, and then just go hard at it for a few months.
And look, your win rate isn't that bad - you've won 25% of your games. I've played about 6 times as many games as you have ... and won 20% of them
Posted by intrepidwilson on 2025-07-20 11:46:20
I [i]dream[/i] of a 10% win rate! Nuffle hates me and I hate them right back. Every other time I place this stupid, broken game, I want to frisbee my laptop out of the damn window.
In reference to Murker's points;
[i]Play orcs for 100 games and learn a few things[/i] - I have learned nothing but bash...
[i]Learn how nice ST4 players are. Good road blocks[/i] - Unless they die cheaply.
[i]Learn how good GUARD skill is getting you more blocks against a non-Guard team[/i] - True.
[i]Learn how much better it is having AV10+ than AV8+. Less death. More skills[/i] - Hahaha! Very funny... Plenty of my players are dead and it is criminally hard to skill up if all your players do well is die.
Blood Bowl is a stupid, annoying game that often makes me question why the hell do I bother. I'm a 45 year-old man; pixels have no right to make me want to break stuff!
So... As someone who has had a 50+ game streak without a win, I say quit if you want to quit. Or, as I seem to have done, enjoy making some nice art, creating some storylines, and helping others play. Just expect that by T3 you will know whether you're going to have a good game or a terrible game. I anticipate terrible and am sometimes even let down by that.
In reference to Murker's points;
[i]Play orcs for 100 games and learn a few things[/i] - I have learned nothing but bash...
[i]Learn how nice ST4 players are. Good road blocks[/i] - Unless they die cheaply.
[i]Learn how good GUARD skill is getting you more blocks against a non-Guard team[/i] - True.
[i]Learn how much better it is having AV10+ than AV8+. Less death. More skills[/i] - Hahaha! Very funny... Plenty of my players are dead and it is criminally hard to skill up if all your players do well is die.
Blood Bowl is a stupid, annoying game that often makes me question why the hell do I bother. I'm a 45 year-old man; pixels have no right to make me want to break stuff!
So... As someone who has had a 50+ game streak without a win, I say quit if you want to quit. Or, as I seem to have done, enjoy making some nice art, creating some storylines, and helping others play. Just expect that by T3 you will know whether you're going to have a good game or a terrible game. I anticipate terrible and am sometimes even let down by that.
Posted by SneekyGitz on 2025-07-20 12:17:29
Honestly, I think playing the same team put blinders on me for a bit (I have a worse track record than anyone, I bet).
I think playing bash teams gets you stuck thinking about bashing things. At some point, that's not helpful, and all you can see is the next thing to bash. Unless you get good removal, all this is doing is creating an easy strategy for the good players, because all they have to do is base up and you're stuck.
In the meantime, you don't want to take risks, you don't see opportunities, and you aren't looking for the way to get the ball to the right spot.
I think playing bash teams gets you stuck thinking about bashing things. At some point, that's not helpful, and all you can see is the next thing to bash. Unless you get good removal, all this is doing is creating an easy strategy for the good players, because all they have to do is base up and you're stuck.
In the meantime, you don't want to take risks, you don't see opportunities, and you aren't looking for the way to get the ball to the right spot.
Posted by flinkerbear on 2025-07-20 12:28:01
A lot has been said thats true, I just want to add one thing:
Sometimes taking a break for some time, especially if you're not really feeling it, can be great for your progression. Your brain keeps working on things even if you don't actively do them, and taking a few days/weeks/whatever off may still yield improvement. You will come back and see that you maybe understand some situations better or don't feel as stressed in others.
Good luck out there :)
Sometimes taking a break for some time, especially if you're not really feeling it, can be great for your progression. Your brain keeps working on things even if you don't actively do them, and taking a few days/weeks/whatever off may still yield improvement. You will come back and see that you maybe understand some situations better or don't feel as stressed in others.
Good luck out there :)
Posted by Brosian on 2025-07-20 13:22:20
Hi!
Completely agree with the last comment.
Do not worry as I´m worst coach than you. For sure. Now, I try things, crazy teams... all for the LOL. for sure I try also serious things, but I try to smile with every disgrace
Completely agree with the last comment.
Do not worry as I´m worst coach than you. For sure. Now, I try things, crazy teams... all for the LOL. for sure I try also serious things, but I try to smile with every disgrace
Posted by koadah on 2025-07-20 13:44:19
I've only won one game out of my last seven. That's better that 10% I suppose. :)
It's pretty simple though. If you mostly play vs people who are better than you, then you'll mostly lose. ;)
Two main options come to mind.
1. Become a better coach.
2. Play vs weaker coaches.
145 Club works for both, though it is a bit quiet at the moment as far as games played are concerned.
There good coaches who will offer advice and match analysis. We could always do with some more.
You can ask for advice on any games including [C], table top, BB2/3 or whatever. Though Fumbbl games are the easiest to review.
Option 2 also works in the [C]ompetitve division. If you play "open" games, you don't have to pick a Legend or Mega-star every match.
The role play element of the game is what keeps some coaches going. I do feel that this is somewhat lacking now that we have redraft.
You can dodge redraft in the [L]eague division but is would be difficult to get the volume of games that you can get in [C]ompetitive.
I do doubt that I'd still be here if we'd had the current set of rules when I started.
Fumbbl does still allow us to play a variety of different rules. Including the old ones. ;)
It's pretty simple though. If you mostly play vs people who are better than you, then you'll mostly lose. ;)
Two main options come to mind.
1. Become a better coach.
2. Play vs weaker coaches.
145 Club works for both, though it is a bit quiet at the moment as far as games played are concerned.
There good coaches who will offer advice and match analysis. We could always do with some more.
You can ask for advice on any games including [C], table top, BB2/3 or whatever. Though Fumbbl games are the easiest to review.
Option 2 also works in the [C]ompetitve division. If you play "open" games, you don't have to pick a Legend or Mega-star every match.
The role play element of the game is what keeps some coaches going. I do feel that this is somewhat lacking now that we have redraft.
You can dodge redraft in the [L]eague division but is would be difficult to get the volume of games that you can get in [C]ompetitive.
I do doubt that I'd still be here if we'd had the current set of rules when I started.
Fumbbl does still allow us to play a variety of different rules. Including the old ones. ;)
Posted by SneekyGitz on 2025-07-20 14:00:35
Ironically, I think the roleplaying aspect slightly ruins the game. Too many games have been ruined by people playing their special characters that break the game. It's one thing to have a few helpful skills, but most of these players have worked out how to not resort to anything as lowly as tactics.
I'm sure you'd disagree, but I think the problem with the redraft is that it's both an arbitrary barrier, and it doesn't quite do what it says on the tin. People are still carrying their broken characters through 10 seasons and cheating everyone out of a good game, but lots of other people are seeing the season as the arbitrary barrier that says they have to try and do their team again.
I'm sure you'd disagree, but I think the problem with the redraft is that it's both an arbitrary barrier, and it doesn't quite do what it says on the tin. People are still carrying their broken characters through 10 seasons and cheating everyone out of a good game, but lots of other people are seeing the season as the arbitrary barrier that says they have to try and do their team again.
Posted by Calthor on 2025-07-20 14:38:42
If you enjoy the game, then continue to play.
If the lack of wins is preventing you from enjoying, then either take a break, or consider what would work for you to get that enjoyment - how to get better, or how to enjoy even if you are not as successful as you'd like to be.
Depressing and demotivating is not helpful for being your best self. Sounds like there's also a change of narrative needed.
If the lack of wins is preventing you from enjoying, then either take a break, or consider what would work for you to get that enjoyment - how to get better, or how to enjoy even if you are not as successful as you'd like to be.
Depressing and demotivating is not helpful for being your best self. Sounds like there's also a change of narrative needed.
Posted by Zelmor on 2025-07-20 14:51:28
Read the book. https://fumbbl.com/help:Thousand+Losses+Playbook
Posted by MattDakka on 2025-07-20 14:51:56
I don't think you are too stupid to play it. Playing BB doesn't require to be a rocket scientist. On the other hand, if you want to get better, you need to invest some time on it. As already suggested, it's better to learn the basics with a solid tier 1 teams, such as Orcs, Dwarfs, Undead, Norse, Amazons. Humans are not a top tier 1 but they have clearly defined positionals and are versatile.
I suggest to stay away from tier 2 and 3 teams until you have learned well the basics.
Playing tier 2 and 3 teams just adds difficulty to the process and that could make it more frustrating for you.
I don't suggest to play on Gamefinder. There all boils down to pick weaker opponents or be picked by stronger opponents, both won't teach you a lot.
It's better to play a match arranged by the impartial scheduler. You might play some games at a disadvantage, other ones at an advantage, but in the long run they are fairer than the games you can find on Gamefinder.
You could watch the replays of top coaches playing the races you are interested to learn, or watch live games played by good coaches in the Box.
Replays can be watched at fast speed, so you don't need to spend hours to watch some of them.
Try to play the turns in a "safe actions first, risky actions later" order. This is not always the right thing to do, some particular turns may require to throw caution to the wind, but most of times the probability-order-sequence of action helps. Also, it helps you to put order in your turns, as a guideline, and that reduces the thinking you have to do each turn.
Try to build properly your players. You have no control on dice, but you have no excuse about picking wrong skills on your players.
Try to understand what you did wrong in a game. You can do it on your own, or ask somebody to watch your games and tell you what you did wrong.
Don't get disheartened, progress walks with baby steps. The important thing is that you try to understand what is wrong and what is right, game after game.
As long as you don't get disheartened and keep on playing, if you learn by your mistakes you will get better over time. That's a sure thing, it just require some time, effort and commitment.
So, to get back to your question: should you keep on playing?
If you play BB as a casual game once a week, get frustrated, and you are not interested in spending more time to get better, then keeping on playing could not be wise. If you want to spend some time to get better, then you should keep on playing.
So, I think it boils down to how much time and effort you want to invest on the game, not a matter of stupidity. I don't think you are stupid and there is no need to have an IQ of 150 to play BB well. Time, commitment and experience are your friends.
I suggest to stay away from tier 2 and 3 teams until you have learned well the basics.
Playing tier 2 and 3 teams just adds difficulty to the process and that could make it more frustrating for you.
I don't suggest to play on Gamefinder. There all boils down to pick weaker opponents or be picked by stronger opponents, both won't teach you a lot.
It's better to play a match arranged by the impartial scheduler. You might play some games at a disadvantage, other ones at an advantage, but in the long run they are fairer than the games you can find on Gamefinder.
You could watch the replays of top coaches playing the races you are interested to learn, or watch live games played by good coaches in the Box.
Replays can be watched at fast speed, so you don't need to spend hours to watch some of them.
Try to play the turns in a "safe actions first, risky actions later" order. This is not always the right thing to do, some particular turns may require to throw caution to the wind, but most of times the probability-order-sequence of action helps. Also, it helps you to put order in your turns, as a guideline, and that reduces the thinking you have to do each turn.
Try to build properly your players. You have no control on dice, but you have no excuse about picking wrong skills on your players.
Try to understand what you did wrong in a game. You can do it on your own, or ask somebody to watch your games and tell you what you did wrong.
Don't get disheartened, progress walks with baby steps. The important thing is that you try to understand what is wrong and what is right, game after game.
As long as you don't get disheartened and keep on playing, if you learn by your mistakes you will get better over time. That's a sure thing, it just require some time, effort and commitment.
So, to get back to your question: should you keep on playing?
If you play BB as a casual game once a week, get frustrated, and you are not interested in spending more time to get better, then keeping on playing could not be wise. If you want to spend some time to get better, then you should keep on playing.
So, I think it boils down to how much time and effort you want to invest on the game, not a matter of stupidity. I don't think you are stupid and there is no need to have an IQ of 150 to play BB well. Time, commitment and experience are your friends.
Posted by SteelMerchant on 2025-07-20 15:34:39
I questioned myself before commenting here because you've been given alot of advice allready. But alas, I want to help so that being said: (And sorry if I repeat advice from above because i didnt read through it first, and in no particular order of importance:
I looked at the teams you are playing and the number of games you are playing with each:
1) You need to play at least 10 games with a team to give yourself the knowledge, experience to know how to play a certain team. Rules, stats and how each team plays is different and playing 1 game or 3 with a team shows you nothing. 10 minimum .
2) PLAY TIER ONE TEAMS! I looked at the teams you are playing. goblins, ogres, chaos, nurgle...chaos dwarfs...all bad teams to begin with. PLAY AMAZONS, SKAVEN, ORCS, UNDEAD... go to the black box competition season 14, read the rules, it will show you the tiers of teams. play amazons or norse. both give you a significant starting advantage by having a very important skill, either block or dodge on all your players to begin with.
3) Min/ Max your team. if your looking to win, do everything you can to win. Do not gibe me the "Well I want to win but I still don't want -'to play to win at all costs'- well then dont complain. Mindset of winning takes a mindset of winning not a mondset of "having fun"
ok, im out. good luck, bye.
I looked at the teams you are playing and the number of games you are playing with each:
1) You need to play at least 10 games with a team to give yourself the knowledge, experience to know how to play a certain team. Rules, stats and how each team plays is different and playing 1 game or 3 with a team shows you nothing. 10 minimum .
2) PLAY TIER ONE TEAMS! I looked at the teams you are playing. goblins, ogres, chaos, nurgle...chaos dwarfs...all bad teams to begin with. PLAY AMAZONS, SKAVEN, ORCS, UNDEAD... go to the black box competition season 14, read the rules, it will show you the tiers of teams. play amazons or norse. both give you a significant starting advantage by having a very important skill, either block or dodge on all your players to begin with.
3) Min/ Max your team. if your looking to win, do everything you can to win. Do not gibe me the "Well I want to win but I still don't want -'to play to win at all costs'- well then dont complain. Mindset of winning takes a mindset of winning not a mondset of "having fun"
ok, im out. good luck, bye.
Posted by Brosian on 2025-07-20 18:25:17
Even more,
I forget to put it in the response. This game is cruel... this cruelty makes this game the worst game in the world, but the community is so amazing so just for the community, BB is the best game ever.
Just don´t throw the towel. Take your time (short) and we will wait your return!!!
I forget to put it in the response. This game is cruel... this cruelty makes this game the worst game in the world, but the community is so amazing so just for the community, BB is the best game ever.
Just don´t throw the towel. Take your time (short) and we will wait your return!!!
Posted by Jogrenaught on 2025-07-20 21:11:43
Follow your heart.
If losing several games in a row keeps you up at night, don't play it, not because this will happen but because it is a possibility. The more you play, the more chances you have to win or lose, and the more keenly losses are felt as time goes by. We play this dice game the same way that gamblers visit a card table; even the best of gamblers have losses that span for months. They choose to keep going even knowing that losses bother them. Its okay to not like a loss or a string of losses because we want to win. If the low side of losing this game outweighs the up side of the community or the journey of improving, then it will never be for you.
If improving your win rate and working on your gameplay helps justify getting some losses, then work on that. But maybe self-led improvement isn't helping or has served you as well as it's going to. Find a mentor to walk you through. I think 145 has some folks that will do this. I know Jon Lackey has a very affordable coaching program he can walk you through. But like he said, even with working on your choices and your odds for this game, your winrate is going to improve by maybe in spurts of 5%.
This is because its a game of dice. Mitigate them, add to them, take some away - doesnt matter. Odds for or against you are never in your control. And of course, some of the swingiest parts of the game we have no control over (throw-ins and ball bounces) - aside form safe pair of hands (relatively new but a meh skill).
Follow your heart and make your decision and make it for yourself. Be honest with yourself. Im sure wed love to see another BB player on here, but not one thats consistently miserable. Even if BB isnt for you, every closed door opens a new one.
If losing several games in a row keeps you up at night, don't play it, not because this will happen but because it is a possibility. The more you play, the more chances you have to win or lose, and the more keenly losses are felt as time goes by. We play this dice game the same way that gamblers visit a card table; even the best of gamblers have losses that span for months. They choose to keep going even knowing that losses bother them. Its okay to not like a loss or a string of losses because we want to win. If the low side of losing this game outweighs the up side of the community or the journey of improving, then it will never be for you.
If improving your win rate and working on your gameplay helps justify getting some losses, then work on that. But maybe self-led improvement isn't helping or has served you as well as it's going to. Find a mentor to walk you through. I think 145 has some folks that will do this. I know Jon Lackey has a very affordable coaching program he can walk you through. But like he said, even with working on your choices and your odds for this game, your winrate is going to improve by maybe in spurts of 5%.
This is because its a game of dice. Mitigate them, add to them, take some away - doesnt matter. Odds for or against you are never in your control. And of course, some of the swingiest parts of the game we have no control over (throw-ins and ball bounces) - aside form safe pair of hands (relatively new but a meh skill).
Follow your heart and make your decision and make it for yourself. Be honest with yourself. Im sure wed love to see another BB player on here, but not one thats consistently miserable. Even if BB isnt for you, every closed door opens a new one.
Posted by pythrr on 2025-07-21 06:08:15
play meh, I sux ballz