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Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: May 26, 2024 - 11:38 Reply with quote Back to top

complete agreement on the core rules changes there Jan, except the extreme heat rule. That shouldnt have a Khemri Caveat, but the rule does need to be reworked.
The roster ideas are more hit and miss

I'm suprised you dont have anything about passing there

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MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: May 26, 2024 - 11:47 Reply with quote Back to top

A +1 modifier after each failed KO recovery attempt is something I'd really like to have in the next edition.
Grod



Joined: Sep 30, 2003

Post   Posted: May 26, 2024 - 12:22 Reply with quote Back to top

Surely this will just be a supplementary box to the existing edition?

Flesh out some of the missing teams (bring back Slann!) and any other team that doesn't have unique skills yet.

Include special play cards so everyone has to go out and buy the box.

Not sure I am ready yet for the entire rulebook to be rewritten again, I am just getting the hang of "jumping", "seasons" and "catestrophic" passing...

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MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: May 26, 2024 - 12:35 Reply with quote Back to top

If PA stat is kept, I'd like to use either a D8 or 2D6 like in 2nd edition to work out the passing.
RDaneel



Joined: Feb 24, 2023

Post   Posted: May 26, 2024 - 12:35 Reply with quote Back to top

Personally i will not revert anything of the BB2020 to the previous BB2016 which i found was worst.
I would just implement some very minor changes like

- I would remove from kick-off table whatever result which could ban one player from the beginning of the game (so : officious ref ok stunned, but no fire off. : throw a rock: NEVER EVER AGAIN).

- Nuffle prayer. There are some things i don't understand: if you win a prayer of the nuffle you should have a benefit. So for instance the effect which impact both teams should be removed and impact only one (eg Moles under the pitch). Treacherous Trapdor i find quite useless can be left but if the GW will implement something different i would take it

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MiniMorg



Joined: May 25, 2020

Post   Posted: May 26, 2024 - 12:40 Reply with quote Back to top

there is going to be an faq soon where they will take away swarming from underworld snots
Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: May 26, 2024 - 12:40 Reply with quote Back to top

Grod wrote:
Surely this will just be a supplementary box to the existing edition?

Flesh out some of the missing teams (bring back Slann!) and any other team that doesn't have unique skills yet.

Include special play cards so everyone has to go out and buy the box.

Not sure I am ready yet for the entire rulebook to be rewritten again, I am just getting the hang of "jumping", "seasons" and "catestrophic" passing...


Agreed. It will be a tidying of the rules imo

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MiniMorg



Joined: May 25, 2020

Post   Posted: May 26, 2024 - 12:41 Reply with quote Back to top

they also need a new rule book witch adds in all the faq changes and all the new traits from the spike as well as all the stars
MiniMorg



Joined: May 25, 2020

Post   Posted: May 26, 2024 - 12:44 Reply with quote Back to top

we need to send this to gw!!!
Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: May 26, 2024 - 12:46 Reply with quote Back to top

MiniMorg wrote:
we need to send this to gw!!!


If that happened I'd need to do some serious removing of horrible ideas haha Very Happy

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MiniMorg



Joined: May 25, 2020

Post   Posted: May 26, 2024 - 12:50 Reply with quote Back to top

i think that underworld need to be MORE op (hehehehe)
MattDakka



Joined: Oct 09, 2007

Post   Posted: May 26, 2024 - 12:51 Reply with quote Back to top

Animal Savagery and Unchannelled Fury: non-Block/Blitz Actions work on a 3+, not on a 4+.
Garion



Joined: Aug 19, 2009

Post   Posted: May 26, 2024 - 14:08 Reply with quote Back to top

Collection of reasonable opinions from this thread so far:

Core Rules

-Remove Star player Special Rules
-Remove MB+2 from the game
-D3 nominated MVP return
-Rushes/GFI become more difficult, first 2+, 2nd 3+, 3rd 4+
- officious ref removed, bring back throw rock, BH max. Or only send off for one drive
-blitz! kick off result counts as a normal team turn again, but retains the limited number of players can move rule
-HMP cannot be wildly inaccurate
-Accurate and cannoneer returned to one skill
-cloud burster and safe pass back to one skill
-revert injujry/cas table to Blood Bowl 2016 version (which in turn fixes apo)
-remove redraft, introduce ageing roll from 4th skill, gain a Niggle if failed. 1d6 4+ to get no injury, 5+ on 5th skill 6+ on 6th skill.
-Get rid of Leap's max +1 modification
-hypnotic gaze has a variable roll after the skill so adjusted for specific players like Blood Lust (2+) (3+) etc...
-remove low cost linemen rule
-remove prayers of nuffle
-revert skills ups and stat increases to the previous version, but you do not have to take any skill when you skill up, you can opt not to and incur no price increase
-1 rr a turn again
-Diving catch now works no matter what if the ball ends up in the players tackle zone
-Claw and Mighty Blow are allowed to stack again
-sweltering means rushes are not possible
-bring back IGMEOY
- fix wildly inaccurate passes

Rosters

Amazon
-Blitzers gain S access
-linemen get GA access, start with Side Step, remove Dodge
-Thrower remove dodge, give Side Step, Start with GAP
-Blockers Ag4+

Black Orc
-Black Orc get Ma5

Chaos Chosen
-140k mino

Chaos Dwarf
-Remove Tackle
-Give Enslaved Troll
-140k mino

Chaos Renegade
-130k ogre
-140k mino
-thrower 70k
-M on big guys

Dark Elf

Dwarf
-Remove Tackle from the team

Elven Union
- Give Catchers PA3+ because the synergy with NoS
- Throwers 70k

Gnome

Goblin
-Trolls lose Loner
-Swoop returns to move 3 D3, but each square beyond the first requires a GFI (using new GFI rule)
- Roster bribes or removal or return of SW rolls
-Bomber gets P access

Halfling
-Rostered Chef(s) 3+ roll
-hefty G access

High Elf
-Blitzers 3+ PA
-Throwers 90k

Human
-Ogre 130k

Imperial Nobs
-throwers 65k
-Blockers 80k
-Blitzers 100k
-Ogres 130k
-RRs 60k

Khorne
-Blood spawn 150k
-linemen 45k

Necromantic Horror
- flesh golems 100k
-WW 120k

Norse

Nurgle
-Plague ridden works the same as undeads necromancer, get the player free in the roster...
-Rotters 30k

Ogre
-Ogres cost 130k

OWA
-Ogres 130k
-Dwarf Blocker 70k
-human blitzer 85k

Orc
-Blockers Ma4


Shambling Undead

Skaven

Snotling

Tomb Kings
-remove decay

Underworld
-Remove Swarming
-change Gutter Runner to Night Runner MA8

Vamps
-Runners Ma7
-adjust hypno roll in line with new rule mentioned above in core rules

Wood Elf
-throwers 85k
-catchers get sprint

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The_Great_Gobbo



Joined: Aug 04, 2014

Post   Posted: May 26, 2024 - 14:18 Reply with quote Back to top

Garion you missed out the rule that any halfling attempting to weaponise pastry is executed
JackassRampant



Joined: Feb 26, 2011

Post   Posted: May 26, 2024 - 15:41 Reply with quote Back to top

FWIW, I really like multi-rerolls. It's not more or less strategy, just different.

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