MerryZ
Joined: Nov 28, 2005
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Jun 25, 2024 - 06:02 |
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Extra games is even worse idea, that would give someone a 3 game lead for just playing games. Didnt think that completely thru ?
Point of gauntlet is to git gud and enter 15 game team, no ?
Also you already for some silly reason get 3 stars from BBT win, why would you get stars for just playing games ?
Ps. Give rumbles BIG star instead.
Luv.
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Gridironman
Joined: Mar 18, 2022
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Jun 25, 2024 - 06:43 |
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Jesus dude. |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Jun 25, 2024 - 09:32 |
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I actually agree with MerryZ.
You have three wildcards? You could use those with no extra messing around.
Though, I still think that those should go to teams with the next best records.
You could run another tournament for the 60 Club. But that is more work for the admins.
Easier solution. Give them a badge if you don't already.
As for adding all 60 Club coaches...
That would allow people to prioritise building a team for the Gauntlet over winning as they wouldn't need to win to get there. |
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Gridironman
Joined: Mar 18, 2022
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Jun 25, 2024 - 10:08 |
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If the wildcards are added in a format where its an evenly distributed knockout without byes then the top teams do not benefit from their good performance. I would prefer no wildcards, including my team in such a scenario. It is all about not having skidmark delivery. I am fine with hearing other perspectives. |
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Christer
Joined: Aug 02, 2003
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koadah wrote: | Edit: Who gets the wildcards now? |
The algorithm is somewhat complicated. I'll write a blog post about it so it doesn't get hidden in the middle of a forum thread. |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Jun 25, 2024 - 12:21 |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Jun 25, 2024 - 12:46 |
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Nelphine
Joined: Apr 01, 2011
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Jun 25, 2024 - 13:48 |
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Eh, while its complicated, murker's idea would effectively simply limit wildcards to 2, and the 32nd would be a lottery instead. The algorithm wouldn't change, there would just be less slots for the offers.
Not saying that means we have to implement murkers idea, just that the complexity of the algorithm as described shouldn't be the reason to say no. |
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koadah
Joined: Mar 30, 2005
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Jun 25, 2024 - 15:16 |
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The original idea said "at least one". Complicated enough that it won't be three?
But however many, it would be more work than just leaving it alone.
Giving them a badge doesn't require any dev effort other than maybe linking to the badge.
But I'm still waiting for the link to the actual Gauntlet. |
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MerryZ
Joined: Nov 28, 2005
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Jun 26, 2024 - 04:51 |
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I hope Christer is doing his best on BIG stars on rumbles.
He cant be so stupid as ruining good and working system. |
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RDaneel
Joined: Feb 24, 2023
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Jun 26, 2024 - 10:26 |
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my 2 cents
Are we sure that a wild card for a tournament will motivate a coach to complete 60 games with all his squad's teams? Not sure... (at least not for me).
Usually when i decided to leave a BBT team behind is because it was not performing well with that team (inefficient roster, high loss rate, bad results... etc.)
As was perfectly summarized by smeborg here
https://fumbbl.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=32609 the chance of winning is much higher for those teams that have super-efficient rosters. If after 5-10 games (maybe with tiers5 or Tiers6 team) the situation is so desperate I quit the team. Expecially if TV is too high or too low. And i don't think i am alone in this practice.
So I don't think a wildcard to enter a tournament motivates (at least me) to continue playing with a very unlucky underperforming team with unefficient roster and or not optimized TV in BT.
Maybe another kind of motivation (MVP of choice, extra skills, healing potions...) to modify this roster in something more playable will be a nice incentive.
Otherwise enter a tournament with 15 games team with 5/5/5 scoring and no any special players is a waste of time not fun, because I know in the tournament i will meet much more optimized rosters than mine, it is like start a game with handicap. |
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Gridironman
Joined: Mar 18, 2022
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Jun 26, 2024 - 19:18 |
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I think many people cannot play 60 games. I grind matches, but my schedule is often unpermitting of having an eligible team. However, 60 games eligibility is fine. |
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spelledaren
Joined: Mar 06, 2004
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Jun 27, 2024 - 03:23 |
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Instead of a lottery I’d be happy to see spot 32 go to the next best result from a squad that played all 60 games. |
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dementor42
Joined: Oct 27, 2017
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Jun 27, 2024 - 23:41 |
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spelledaren wrote: | Instead of a lottery I’d be happy to see spot 32 go to the next best result from a squad that played all 60 games. |
Now there's an idea I could get behind. Probably still not good though because then you can sacrifice record a little bit to greed for a much better team.
You don't want a team winning gauntlet because they won fewer games and got more SPP while in BBT |
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MisterA
Joined: Mar 29, 2020
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Jun 28, 2024 - 19:56 |
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DaCoach wrote: | Nice idea. Steel Trophy does feel like an open competition turning into a closed party sometimes. | I've just read this through and although i'm sure it wont happen I have an interesting suggestion...
Forget the Steel Gauntlet,
Behold the event of true champions!
THE BLACKEND SPOON
The 29 worst teams, 1 from each race, the most diced, most broken teams after the full 15 games of hell, For riding the wave of Nuffle's wrath.
And 3 similarly unlucky extra teams to make the 32, Then go into the same knockout format to see who was willing to really push on through absolute adversity and make the best of the Sh9^sho% season the endured???
I might even get a team in ;o) |
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