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"You are so lucky" says my opponent as my little dwarf blocker (ST3, block) blocks and knocks down a mummy (ST5, without skill). In fact, 1 out of 4 times, the mummy's coach will have to choose between two results that will knock down his/her mummy. And if you have a reroll to waste, the odds are quite impressive.



                   no RR      with RR

dwarf down         30.6%      9.3%

pushback           44.4%      61.7%

mummy down          25%        29%

The "with RR" column assumes that you reroll only when you got a skull the first time.

Of course, this block is quite dangerous, and you should try to block that mummy only if it gives you a significant advantage, or at the end of your turn when all the important stuff is done. But when it succeeds, the other coach with generally curse Nuffle - a mistake no coach should make)

Posted by Kinks on 2011-01-29 15:44:14

Typical Dorf lucker tactics.....

Posted by Rabe on 2011-01-29 16:55:15

It's also worth a try if your blocker has the pro skill (still better chances to bring the other one down). As soon as a -2db goes against someone with block or you have no (at least pro) RR, chances are higher for your guy to go down then for the other one. Still it might be useful if both guys are far away from the action since his chances to bring you down in his turn will be higher than yours to go down in yours. At least if you can be sure he won't do a foul with his guy afterwards.

Important to know for little dwarves. ;-)

Posted by Wreckage on 2011-01-29 17:46:26

Since David was equipped with a slingshot and was throwing rocks at his opponents hence was probably a rather agile and weak build human I find the comparison to a dwarf a bit unfitting. Goliath on the other hand was a giant.Mummies are the only st5 creatures that are exactly no big guys but just very strong. It's a bit disturbing you chose to see two so unfitting creatures in that analogy.There would have been better players to chose from...

Since you calculated the odds for failing an action with rr you at least should also add the overall fail chances to these odds. After all if thats a criterium it should be the relation between success and fail chance that matters.

Posted by Bardazur on 2011-01-29 18:56:34

@Wreckage: The expression "David vs Goliath" is a bit more general than the story in the Bible. At least in my country, you talk about "David and Goliath" when a small person/company/whatever struggles against a big one, and wins. The small one doesn't have to throw a rock, and the big ones is not always a litteral giant. So a dwarf and a mummy, it fits perfectly.

I don't understand what you call "the overall fail chances to the odds". The percentage of failure and success are there..

@Rabe:
with pro, assuming you reroll if you get a skull the first time, the percentage (dwarf down/pushback/mummy down) are
19.9%/54.5%/25.6% if you can't reroll the pro roll, and 14.6%/58.1%/27.3% if you can.

Posted by Wreckage on 2011-01-30 09:59:33

..the analogy describes a weak triumphing over a strong... a dwarf is just not weak.. and a mummy is not big. David was neither small he was human sized. While Goliath was anourmously large. Bloodbowl consists of enough big guys to choose from for a fitting example. It consists of weaker players for a fitting analogy too. You could've gone with a norse vs a mino but yet you chose a dwarf vs a mummy. I'm not surprised the dwarf wins... It's a dwarf after all .... a warrior with some real fighting spirit. I hate your analogy, hate it so much. Your whole way of thinking has just no spirit. You're just wrong with everything. EVERYTHING!!!

:) .

Posted by f_alk on 2011-01-30 13:55:22

Chance to not cause a turnover on a -2d block when having block:
25/36
Chance to not cause a turnover with an AG3 player dodging into the open:
24/36


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