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Waiting4Mish



Joined: Jun 13, 2022

Post   Posted: Jun 04, 2023 - 10:13 Reply with quote Back to top

I play with a few teams with trolls with projectile vomit but I often don't know the best time to use it.

Do I only use it when the alternative is one block dice?

Do I use it when the other player has block and dodge?

Do I use it on low AV players?

What factors do you take into account to make the decision?

Can someone give me some guidance of examples of when it is best to vomit and when it's best to block?
Diablange



Joined: Apr 27, 2020

Post   Posted: Jun 04, 2023 - 10:55 Reply with quote Back to top

Hi, you pretty answered too your own question, no ? Smile All these examples seem valid. I would just add one : you want to be 100% this block won't result in a turnover.
MerryZ



Joined: Nov 28, 2005

Post   Posted: Jun 04, 2023 - 11:31 Reply with quote Back to top

Most of the time I use it because no turnover.

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Waiting4Mish



Joined: Jun 13, 2022

Post   Posted: Jun 04, 2023 - 12:03 Reply with quote Back to top

Diablange wrote:
Hi, you pretty answered too your own question, no ? Smile All these examples seem valid. I would just add one : you want to be 100% this block won't result in a turnover.


I guess I don't know how to calculate whether to vomit or 2-block against an AV8 player for example. Should I generally vomit instead of a one dice block? What about if the opposing player only has one of dodge or block? etc.

I'm trying to figure out the line when to consider vomit so if people have real examples of when you would say yes or no to choosing vomit that would be helpful.
Happy_Amateur



Joined: Jan 14, 2019

Post   Posted: Jun 04, 2023 - 12:10 Reply with quote Back to top

I usually use it after a big night out. Sometimes during.
C0ddlefish



Joined: Sep 17, 2019

Post   Posted: Jun 04, 2023 - 12:39 Reply with quote Back to top

I'd focus more on failures rather than successes.

Vomit failure most likely still leaves you marking an opponent so it's effectively a 1 in 6 to self vomit x 6/36 for a self AV break.

Blocks will be 2/6 fails on 1D (assuming you don't want both down). And 4/36 on a 2D.

So fail rates
33% on a 1D
11% on a 2D
3% Vomit

Success rates
33% on a 1D (assuming no Dodge)
55% on a 2D (assuming no Dodge)
23/35% for Vomit (Av8+/Av9+)
Endrophil



Joined: Nov 16, 2015

Post   Posted: Jun 04, 2023 - 20:05 Reply with quote Back to top

Use vomit on halflings, they are disgusting. *ugh*
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