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2009-11-01 09:11:10
17 votes, rating 3.9
17 votes, rating 3.9
6th match : what's victory? Can you eat it?
So this was my first game against a necro team. It was brand new so I think my team was supposed to be better, even though Foodsnatcher and a no-name liner missed the game.
I won. No really! I did! 2-0. My record wasn't really terrible for a newbie (0-2-3) but it sure is nice to finally win one. Plus, even though the 1st TD was helped by luck, the 2nd I think I did a good play. Even better : I got nothing worse than KOs!
So what did I learn today?
- JBB isn't very popular at 3AM.
- That I really look like I've been eliminated from Rookie Cup LXIII. Well it was fun trying :)
- I'm getting slightly better at the block game I think. I think.
- I'm stll experimenting deployment, but Decker's advice from the other day looks like it's working well.
- reminder : GR are fast and weak. I played against M6 S3 and M8 S3, my 1st TD really came down to him missing some blocks with those who caught my runners.
- Sligthly stalling behind my line until I get a protected path for my runner. Ended up working with luck on the first try, went very well the second try. But it needs polishing.
- READ THE RULES! I really need to kick my butt to do that once again instead of playing a game sometime soon. Reading it again after 6 games should make more things clear.
Now, stalling. One of my previous opponents (Decker?) suggested that I could wait beside the end line in case I could be in danger after the kick. So at 1-0 in the 2nd half, and my runner beside the line, about 3 turns left, I decided to stall there for a turn. Of course I made sure even GFI couldn't reach him no matter what. And I just KOd one of his 2 big guys, so I figured I was safer now than after the kick. However, I knew stalling could be frowned upon. It's boring, especially for my opponent. Did I make the right choice? In such an unimportant game, I think I should have just scored right away.
Well, a few players got some SP, I earned a nice sum, no casualtys, the numbered results are pretty great, and I'm going to bed.
I won. No really! I did! 2-0. My record wasn't really terrible for a newbie (0-2-3) but it sure is nice to finally win one. Plus, even though the 1st TD was helped by luck, the 2nd I think I did a good play. Even better : I got nothing worse than KOs!
So what did I learn today?
- JBB isn't very popular at 3AM.
- That I really look like I've been eliminated from Rookie Cup LXIII. Well it was fun trying :)
- I'm getting slightly better at the block game I think. I think.
- I'm stll experimenting deployment, but Decker's advice from the other day looks like it's working well.
- reminder : GR are fast and weak. I played against M6 S3 and M8 S3, my 1st TD really came down to him missing some blocks with those who caught my runners.
- Sligthly stalling behind my line until I get a protected path for my runner. Ended up working with luck on the first try, went very well the second try. But it needs polishing.
- READ THE RULES! I really need to kick my butt to do that once again instead of playing a game sometime soon. Reading it again after 6 games should make more things clear.
Now, stalling. One of my previous opponents (Decker?) suggested that I could wait beside the end line in case I could be in danger after the kick. So at 1-0 in the 2nd half, and my runner beside the line, about 3 turns left, I decided to stall there for a turn. Of course I made sure even GFI couldn't reach him no matter what. And I just KOd one of his 2 big guys, so I figured I was safer now than after the kick. However, I knew stalling could be frowned upon. It's boring, especially for my opponent. Did I make the right choice? In such an unimportant game, I think I should have just scored right away.
Well, a few players got some SP, I earned a nice sum, no casualtys, the numbered results are pretty great, and I'm going to bed.
Comments
Posted by Gruenblitze on 2009-11-01 10:26:51
Well - congratulation for the first win!
Posted by MadTias on 2009-11-01 10:50:24
Welcome to FUMBBL, kiss your old life good-bye! :-)
Stalling is a *very* important tactical tool. Perhaps the most important. Watch a couple of FUMBBL Cup games (or any tourney game really) - you will see that both coaches are usually trying to control the clock. Yes, it is frowned upon, but not by anyone who wants to improve their win%. Good to see such a structured effort to learn!
Stalling is a *very* important tactical tool. Perhaps the most important. Watch a couple of FUMBBL Cup games (or any tourney game really) - you will see that both coaches are usually trying to control the clock. Yes, it is frowned upon, but not by anyone who wants to improve their win%. Good to see such a structured effort to learn!
Posted by Cloggy on 2009-11-01 11:11:43
Many congrats!
I do think you should add one thing to your list of lessons learned.
When you have the cash to do so, fire everything with a permanent injury, unless they are gamewinners even with it. Especially niggles should get sacked as soon as you can afford to.
So, in you Academy team.....
Good luck!
I do think you should add one thing to your list of lessons learned.
When you have the cash to do so, fire everything with a permanent injury, unless they are gamewinners even with it. Especially niggles should get sacked as soon as you can afford to.
So, in you Academy team.....
Good luck!
Posted by Ancre on 2009-11-01 11:20:33
Congratulations for you first win !
Posted by KJG on 2009-11-01 14:05:24
Congratulations!
Just thought I'd share with you my thoughts on stalling:
I used to never stall, because I thought it was silly and boring. But 95% of coaches on fumbbl do it, and I wouldn't say it's frowned upon, unless you start stalling in turn 4 perhaps. Stalling from turn 6 or 7 is not generally frowned upon. I think it's regrettable that the game rules encourage stalling, but they do, and I can't really think of a better alternative. The most important thing to remember is that if you're good, you won't give your opponent the opportunity to stall. Of course, there might be situations where it's beyond your control, but most of the time, careful moving and deployment can prevent stalling. So now I stall when I get the opportunity and when it's sensible to do so. And it has helped me win games. One might not agree with all the rules, and dislike some of them, but if you want to win games then you need to play according to those rules.
Good luck on fumbbl!
Just thought I'd share with you my thoughts on stalling:
I used to never stall, because I thought it was silly and boring. But 95% of coaches on fumbbl do it, and I wouldn't say it's frowned upon, unless you start stalling in turn 4 perhaps. Stalling from turn 6 or 7 is not generally frowned upon. I think it's regrettable that the game rules encourage stalling, but they do, and I can't really think of a better alternative. The most important thing to remember is that if you're good, you won't give your opponent the opportunity to stall. Of course, there might be situations where it's beyond your control, but most of the time, careful moving and deployment can prevent stalling. So now I stall when I get the opportunity and when it's sensible to do so. And it has helped me win games. One might not agree with all the rules, and dislike some of them, but if you want to win games then you need to play according to those rules.
Good luck on fumbbl!
Posted by Gran on 2009-11-01 14:11:25
It's been a lot of fun reading your blog, and I second MadTias on the effort and the importance of stalling.
Ask yourself this when your opponent complains that your stalling and tells you "Stop being boring, score so we can get on with the match! ": is a quick score much better for him then for you? Should you be playing according to your game plan or to his?
When I was new here I made an effort to be friendly and please my opponent, but I soon found out that when I had the chance to stall for a 1-0 lead in first half but didn't to be nice to my (often much higher ranking and loudly complaining) opponent, that meant he won the game 1-2 or 1-3. Often enough he himself used the same tactics on me in second half.
So, while this is supposed to be a friendly game you should always strive to win and to play in a way that benefits your team the most. You have no obligation to let your opponent win just because he cannot stand loosing to you. ;-)
Ask yourself this when your opponent complains that your stalling and tells you "Stop being boring, score so we can get on with the match! ": is a quick score much better for him then for you? Should you be playing according to your game plan or to his?
When I was new here I made an effort to be friendly and please my opponent, but I soon found out that when I had the chance to stall for a 1-0 lead in first half but didn't to be nice to my (often much higher ranking and loudly complaining) opponent, that meant he won the game 1-2 or 1-3. Often enough he himself used the same tactics on me in second half.
So, while this is supposed to be a friendly game you should always strive to win and to play in a way that benefits your team the most. You have no obligation to let your opponent win just because he cannot stand loosing to you. ;-)
Posted by Mr_Foulscumm on 2009-11-01 14:47:14
Congratulations!
Stalling and fouling are fine. People who frown upon it suck! Enjoy. :D
Stalling and fouling are fine. People who frown upon it suck! Enjoy. :D
Posted by Roseph on 2009-11-01 16:21:35
congrats on the win. As a Khem coach I really love when teams score fast and leave me 4-6 turns to march back down the field. One it allows me the chance to tie going into half and two it allows me to control and grind your team for the rest of the half as you are coming to me instead of me chasing you down
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Posted by Skavenguy13 on 2009-11-01 17:08:15
Having just watch that part of the replay : It was at the end of my 5th turn, 2nd half. Meaning he had 2 turns left after the kick instead of 3.
Now the thing is, if it was 0-0 at that point I would have done it as long as possible that's for sure : getting to me quickly with the wolf would have been a fun challenge. But no, it was 1-0 already, there was no way he'd have time for a comeback.
And yes, retiring nigglers is in my not-so-far plans, but first I need to re-read how ratings are counted.
Now the thing is, if it was 0-0 at that point I would have done it as long as possible that's for sure : getting to me quickly with the wolf would have been a fun challenge. But no, it was 1-0 already, there was no way he'd have time for a comeback.
And yes, retiring nigglers is in my not-so-far plans, but first I need to re-read how ratings are counted.
Posted by harvestmouse on 2009-11-02 02:56:29
Well according to TS your team was at a disadvantage, not but much, but a little. Worth noting when looking for games.
Posted by adambomb on 2009-11-02 05:12:38
stalling is a valid tactic and there's nothing wrong with it. why give the ball back to your opponent and give them a chance to score if you don't have to? unless you don't play to win