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2015-10-09 01:36:12
16 votes, rating 3.6
16 votes, rating 3.6
maxmax darkies take the noob'box'
Some of you may have noticed I had a bit of an absent period here, even missed a scheduling the stunty cup Q-final deadline (sorry GronxWild and Shadow!). I'm ashamed to admit that the cause for this is that I temporarily defected to the 'shiny graphics' side of blood bowl. Spurred on by Jimmy 'always right' over facebook, I figured I'd try the 34.000 team 'box full of noobs' that is Cyanide's free ladder. And it was fun for a bit, but I think I'm done for the moment.
Although my team rolled annoyingly few doubles (1 Mb and 1 very short-lived guard in about 40? 50? skillups), after 50 games I finally managed to wind up higher than this coach who had been dominating the lists with two chaos teams for a long time. (does anyone know who DonChump is btw? It's not BillBrasky; I checked).
Some other thoughts on the game:
It really really looks great. They brought the positionals to life in a way that is a great pleasure to look at if you love this boardgame of ours.
Getting a game takes anywhere between a second and a minute; however, big TV gaps occur (especially now that my TV flipped to the other side of stupid).
The 'any treasury over 150k counts as TV' is oddly liberating; I like it.
Gameplay itself could be much quicker, mostly because you can't start an action until the previous one has finished animating. (This is especially annoying when setting up; the player has to walk over to where you clicked before you can click the next one!)
Their system discourages interaction and learning. Having no chat pre-game or postgame (when the game ends you don't even have time to say gg), game analysis and teaching is made impossible. I usually do tell people who seem interested 'if you really want to learn the game, play on fumbbl'. It made me really appreciate how fummbl is run through the site, which offers you the forum and the blogs in a way that invites you to interact. I think that if cyanide had forum posts and blogs linked from within their game, they might develop more of a community.
Concessions are a big problem, as your players don't leave (and hence you can keep them safe by conceding vs threats as long as you don't care about w/d/l). As a result of that, scary teams grow even more easily (because free MVPs). Today I had a clawpomb spam chaos opponent. When I was about to gangfoul his mino, he conceded. The next two spins I was drawn against him again, and he conceded both pre-game (he was playing TV 2400 chaos vs TV 2100 dark elves). Silliness. I expect I would see many more concessions if I were playing as a basher.
With coach levels being what they are, frenzy is godlike (and an AG5 leap witch even more so). My kingdom for a juggernaut!
Sidestep not being optional can really screw with your chainpushes (GRRR!)
Although my team rolled annoyingly few doubles (1 Mb and 1 very short-lived guard in about 40? 50? skillups), after 50 games I finally managed to wind up higher than this coach who had been dominating the lists with two chaos teams for a long time. (does anyone know who DonChump is btw? It's not BillBrasky; I checked).
Some other thoughts on the game:
It really really looks great. They brought the positionals to life in a way that is a great pleasure to look at if you love this boardgame of ours.
Getting a game takes anywhere between a second and a minute; however, big TV gaps occur (especially now that my TV flipped to the other side of stupid).
The 'any treasury over 150k counts as TV' is oddly liberating; I like it.
Gameplay itself could be much quicker, mostly because you can't start an action until the previous one has finished animating. (This is especially annoying when setting up; the player has to walk over to where you clicked before you can click the next one!)
Their system discourages interaction and learning. Having no chat pre-game or postgame (when the game ends you don't even have time to say gg), game analysis and teaching is made impossible. I usually do tell people who seem interested 'if you really want to learn the game, play on fumbbl'. It made me really appreciate how fummbl is run through the site, which offers you the forum and the blogs in a way that invites you to interact. I think that if cyanide had forum posts and blogs linked from within their game, they might develop more of a community.
Concessions are a big problem, as your players don't leave (and hence you can keep them safe by conceding vs threats as long as you don't care about w/d/l). As a result of that, scary teams grow even more easily (because free MVPs). Today I had a clawpomb spam chaos opponent. When I was about to gangfoul his mino, he conceded. The next two spins I was drawn against him again, and he conceded both pre-game (he was playing TV 2400 chaos vs TV 2100 dark elves). Silliness. I expect I would see many more concessions if I were playing as a basher.
With coach levels being what they are, frenzy is godlike (and an AG5 leap witch even more so). My kingdom for a juggernaut!
Sidestep not being optional can really screw with your chainpushes (GRRR!)
Comments
Posted by Gurbo on 2015-10-09 02:07:31
In the (very little) play footage I've watched, some models had horrendous clipping issues, I remember the storm vermin being really big offenders in that regard. Did Cyanide say anything about it? Because, yeah, the game looked gorgeous, but things like that take some of the luster away from a game that has fancy graphics as one of the main sell points.
Posted by the_Sage on 2015-10-09 02:12:27
Hmm, I've noticed some minor ones, but certainly nothing I'd call 'horrendous'.
Posted by WhatBall on 2015-10-09 04:07:18
That team list you posted looked like absolute rubbish. Are you supposed to identify stats from those crappy little icons? The colours for the stat fonts are hard to read, and stat increases are not differentiated enough. F to the designer of that interface.
Grats on eating all the fish in the pond. ;)
Grats on eating all the fish in the pond. ;)
Posted by the_Sage on 2015-10-09 08:47:24
These are the smaller thumbnails of the pic, which are just legible @ 1080p.
The icons tell you the skills, yes. They're not really easy to read at first, since you need to actually learn which icons represent which skills. Soon enough your pattern recognition brain takes over, and it's simple (though it's annoying that you can't mark players, meaning you need to mouseover or click every time you want to see someone's skills).
However, it does mean people are a lot more likely to miss my diving tacklers. =)
The icons tell you the skills, yes. They're not really easy to read at first, since you need to actually learn which icons represent which skills. Soon enough your pattern recognition brain takes over, and it's simple (though it's annoying that you can't mark players, meaning you need to mouseover or click every time you want to see someone's skills).
However, it does mean people are a lot more likely to miss my diving tacklers. =)
Posted by Strider84 on 2015-10-09 09:16:48
I have also tried it out for a couple games. Agree with all points made. I also played some in the german league ladder where there is a community so chat and conceding is a lot better.
However, I think they made the campain really good for new players, and indeed there are a lot of new players, and there is a lot of interest, which in tge long run everyone will benefit (fumbbl, tabletop, cyanide)
However, I think they made the campain really good for new players, and indeed there are a lot of new players, and there is a lot of interest, which in tge long run everyone will benefit (fumbbl, tabletop, cyanide)
Posted by Zed on 2015-10-09 10:46:27
Just sad that you give up on the half final of Stunty Cup for it but hey, i know how addictive it can be, not judging =)
Posted by the_Sage on 2015-10-09 12:33:33
You're right, that was very lame of me. =(
I think I missed the quarterfinal though (and hence the chance of getting into the semi-). To be honest I didn't really remember that we were already quite far into the tourney, not that that's any excuse.
I think I missed the quarterfinal though (and hence the chance of getting into the semi-). To be honest I didn't really remember that we were already quite far into the tourney, not that that's any excuse.
Posted by DaCoach on 2015-10-09 12:39:40
Hmm, that review is actually pushing me towards trying it..
..will I come back from the dark side?
..will I come back from the dark side?
Posted by Roland on 2015-10-09 14:37:14
I don't see a difference between the linemen and blitzers...
Posted by the_Sage on 2015-10-09 19:46:48
The options for faces are the same range for both; the armor differs in a way that makes them reasonably distinguishable on the pitch, but not on these zoomed in pictures.